Supplemental Air Suspension, how should it be done?

[iceminion]

Problem: the talon is too low, the owner has a very steep driveway and will completely pwn the intercooler/bumper every day.

Solution: buy some cheap GM air struts, pump, regualtor...

Ok, thoughts? how would you do it?

[Kracka]

How much higher does it need to be? He could just get coilovers and lift the car

[JET]

Screw the air suspension, make a bracket and mount some wheels under the front clip. The wheels will take some weight off and raise the front up.

[iceminion]

Well, there are 2 problems, first the driveway, when the car was stock it scraped pretty bad, this is a bad driveway.

second, it is now lowered pretty far, and to make things worse it has a SBR Race (Big) front mount.

although rollers is a great idea (and maybe the solution that I will be forced to go with) I am still interested in being able to raise the car 4"-6" at the push of a button, only the fronts....

-OR- if adding it to the rear is possible, backing up into the driveway isnt unrealistic, but going over huge speed bumps is still a valid problem.

Maybe ill post the pics of the speed bumps and maybe you will understand my problem

[Kracka]

Maybe he should raise the car back to stock height and take the driveway slowly and at an angle rather than straight on.

[tpunx99GSX]

air ride would be pretty cool, but definatly not in winter time. i can hear the pop now.

[iceminion]

Thanks for the comments, but I am going ahead with this project, other supercars have the function stock, to raise the front of the car for temporary amounts of time.

I was thinking of using something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FRONT...spagenameZWDVW

[Kracka]

...and I am sure a couple hundred thousand are spend on the R&D for this function on the supercars. You really think a truck shock is going to perform correctly on a DSM? Its a cool idea yes, but I think its going to have some severe handling drawbacks.

[blageo23]

Tell him to take the drivway at an angle. My driveway is bad too. my stock ride height scrapes on it sometimes. But my friend with a lowered honda can make it up my driveway if he goes slow and at an angle.

[Kracka]

I have yet to find a driveway my S2000, 3" dropped 1G Talon, or 2" dropped Evo can't handle when taken slowly at an angle.

[Pushit2.0]

Originally Posted by iceminion

... other supercars have the function stock, to raise the front of the car for temporary amounts of time.....

Its a good thing a DSM is not a super car then, he needs to take the angle entry or he needs to lift his car with proper suspension. If he wants to lay frame buy a mini truck or a car with a frame to lay.

~John

[gofastman]

Originally Posted by iceminion

Problem: the talon is too low, the owner has a very steep driveway and will completely pwn the intercooler/bumper every day.

Solution: buy some cheap GM air struts, pump, regualtor...

Ok, thoughts? how would you do it?

just bolt a couple trailer balls on the underside of the cross member, it works for those low rider mini trucks

[JET]

Originally Posted by iceminion

Thanks for the comments, but I am going ahead with this project, other supercars have the function stock, to raise the front of the car for temporary amounts of time.

I was thinking of using something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FRONT...spagenameZWDVW

What do you think that is going to do to handling?? How do you expect truck shocks to possibly work on a DSM that uses struts on the front?

[A//// Guy]

Park on the street? Or make a ramp? Driving up it at an angle should work though. Could drive backward up the driveway too.. haha

[iceminion]

Ok, since the driveway issue is "solved" how about the huge speed bumps at my friends apartment that scrape my intercooler?

Second, if designed properly, there would be no change in the suspension during normal driving, I would only be using this system for situations where I need to go over a bump!

Yes, several hundred thousand dollars has gone into the development of supercar front ride height adjustments, I think I can do something similiar for a fraction of that.

ok, changing gears, after looking at how little room there is between the frame and the wheel....what about 2x of these? http://www.firgelliauto.com/product_...products_id=59

anyone with just reason why these wont bolt on with minimal fabircation of brackets? possibly a rubber damper as to releave stress on the actuator itself?

changing oil could be pretty easy if i could just lift the car up by flipping a switch! LOL

[A//// Guy]

Mount youre intercooler higher? That seems like a more logical solution. My car scrapes the jack supports on most speed bumps, even going slow. I hate it, but theres really not much you can do about it. Im only lowered 1.5"s too, cant imagine lower.

[asshanson]

Originally Posted by M/// Guy

My car scrapes the jack supports on most speed bumps, even going slow

I absolutely hate the speedbumps at your place now, especially the one near the sidewalk to your door, that one seems bigger.

Did you hear the huge bang when I went over that last night?? I thought my transmission cracked half or the oil pan got dented in. It wasn't like the normal scraping sound, it was a hard thud.

[A//// Guy]

Originally Posted by slowboy

I absolutely hate the speedbumps at your place now, especially the one near the sidewalk to your door, that one seems bigger.

Did you hear the huge bang when I went over that last night?? I thought my transmission cracked half or the oil pan got dented in. It wasn't like the normal scraping sound, it was a hard thud.

Haha yea I heard that! I was thinking ouch. I doubt it was youre pan or tranny, those should be above the subframe. Id say it was either youre exhaust or jack points. I have scraped there too, but go uber slow now and never hit.

[iceminion]

Ok, back on topic....any reason why Linear Actuators shouldn't work?

[JET]

That looks like a better possibility. It would have to be mounted between the strut body and the A-arm. The mounting on the strut body is going to be the hardest. You would need to make some sort of beefy clamp to go around the strut and push against that with the actuator attached to the A-arm. I would think that would be easier than attaching it to the strut. You want it as far out as possible to give you a larger torque arm. I wonder how it would work if you mounted them on the sway bar and pushed against the frame/body?