12-08-2008
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#61
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Apple Valley, MN
Drives: 97 GSX, 95 TSI, 04 Celica TRD
Posts: 120
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
That's fine, nobody has gotten theirs to me yet either.
I have some errands to run tomarrow afternoon in north Minneapolis. I could pick up a intake or two if anybody is ready and reasonably close to their. Just let me know.
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12-14-2008
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#62
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
Drives: Teh Bean
Posts: 12,309
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
95talonracer picked mine up on Friday. Just want to find out if you received it, and when you'll be finished with it.
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12-14-2008
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#63
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Built it from scratch!
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: St. Paul
Drives: Currently Mitsu-less
Posts: 851
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
I have been reading up on SMIM or intake manifold designs and now really interested in this.
I was wondering how you are testing the manifolds for air flow? Like are you running a couple of different types of airflow tests on them or just the general flow out of the manifold?
or did I miss a page where you explained this somewhere?
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12-14-2008
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#64
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Reynolds number user
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: grove/tempe
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
oh im sure he'll be using some formula 1 spreadsheets to find the optimal runner lengths using the Helmholtz resonance equations
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12-15-2008
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#65
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Totenritt
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Gardner, KS
Drives: Cranberry Plastic, Shiny red Bayliner with a V10
Posts: 1,670
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
Lolz
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12-15-2008
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#66
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15min late to the world
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
I will have 1 for you tonight, and another later this week. Do you want a stock 1g manifold?
~John
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12-15-2008
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#67
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
Drives: Teh Bean
Posts: 12,309
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
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Originally Posted by Halon
95talonracer picked mine up on Friday. Just want to find out if you received it, and when you'll be finished with it.
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Someone please answer my question so I know that my manifold isn't on ebay right now.
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12-15-2008
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#68
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Apple Valley, MN
Drives: 97 GSX, 95 TSI, 04 Celica TRD
Posts: 120
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
Sorry for no reply, I left my phone at work the other night!
I am doing the testing tomarrow afternoon, so I have planned on dropping off the next night, as I have to work during the day. If anybody needs it back Tuesday night, please let me know.
As far as how the testing will be done, I am simply going to use a flow bench, and test each runner on each manifold. This will show how evenly distributed the airflow is, as well as which manifold will support more power.
I also hope to document runner length, plenum volume, and whatever other design differences may impact performance.
I will hopefully post results Tuesday night, but I might hold off a day to put it in a PDF or somthing easily reposted else where.
Thanks again for the support!
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12-15-2008
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#69
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Finally Tuned...
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Zimmerman
Drives: Spyder GSX
Posts: 2,484
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Halon
Someone please answer my question so I know that my manifold isn't on ebay right now.
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I dropped them off and he has mine, yours, and Blageo's which is whos I brought down last Friday. I was going to ebay it but wanted to see whos was better first and post up the results with the ebay ad so the better one sold for more $$$$ ha just messing with ya!
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12-16-2008
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#70
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AWD4G64
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Shoreview, MN
Posts: 2,286
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Halon
Someone please answer my question so I know that my manifold isn't on ebay right now.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 95talonracer
I dropped them off and he has mine, yours, and Blageo's which is whos I brought down last Friday. I was going to ebay it but wanted to see whos was better first and post up the results with the ebay ad so the better one sold for more $$$$ ha just messing with ya!
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You better start bidding like I am!
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12-16-2008
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#71
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Apple Valley, MN
Drives: 97 GSX, 95 TSI, 04 Celica TRD
Posts: 120
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
Come on now, if I was going to sell these, it wouldn't be on eBay, thats too easy to track back to me!
OK... I got the 4 manifolds tested that I have so far. I'm going to put all the data together tonight, and try to make it easy to understand, and hopefully a small enough file that it can get reposted elsewhere. I'm going to include a few pics of each manifold as well, just to cover all the bases.
As far as returning the manifolds, since the blageo, talonracer, and Halon's came together, is there a chance I can drop them to the same place? Would make my life easier, and I get the impression that the three of you know eachother!
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12-16-2008
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#72
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Finally Tuned...
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Zimmerman
Drives: Spyder GSX
Posts: 2,484
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
You can drop them off at my place or Halon is in the middle of all of us so that works if it is ok with him too.
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94 Supra TT Auto, Project 9.xx in the works
97 Spyder AWD 6 bolt 2.3, 579hp 496tq **FOR SALE**
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12-16-2008
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#73
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
Or I live in blaine too.
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12-16-2008
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#74
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
Drives: Teh Bean
Posts: 12,309
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
Only issue I see with dropping them off at my house is that I will be leaving for the weekend on Thursday night, returning Monday morning. So if they are all at my house, and someone needs theirs back ASAP, then they'd have to break into my house.
Brownman (Aaron for those who don't know) is right next to me, so he'd be a good middle man as well. I just know that my schedule is pretty much swamped until Monday afternoo
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12-16-2008
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#75
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
Word, I have no clue what my schedule is, but if the weather stays like this I should be home working on the car, hopefully installing a sweet 16g that I am getting from munchgsx.
Also its the first weekend since school is done, so I am not sure what I will be doing with myself.
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12-16-2008
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#76
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Unsure resident asshole
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: MN
Drives: '92 Eagle TalonTSI w/many mods
Posts: 3,696
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
greg, I got my new manifold already. it's been sitting here on the ground. I polished it, and got a bracket for the tb..it's still sitting here. I've moved into that house in savage now, so I'm closer. The talon is still at my other house, but i'll be moving it this weekend. I can try and get you the manifold then.
-A. Swift
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12-17-2008
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#77
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Finally Tuned...
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Zimmerman
Drives: Spyder GSX
Posts: 2,484
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
I have heard some info on the results and cant wait to see them posted here!
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94 Supra TT Auto, Project 9.xx in the works
97 Spyder AWD 6 bolt 2.3, 579hp 496tq **FOR SALE**
Amsoil Dealer
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12-17-2008
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#78
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Apple Valley, MN
Drives: 97 GSX, 95 TSI, 04 Celica TRD
Posts: 120
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
awesome. I'll text ya and well work out the details.
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12-17-2008
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#79
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Unsure resident asshole
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: MN
Drives: '92 Eagle TalonTSI w/many mods
Posts: 3,696
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
sounds good.
-A. Swift
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Black 1GB Mafia #1
744AWHP/526TQ-Shootout mode
639.6AWHP/452TQ-DB's dyno
I wanna go fast.
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12-17-2008
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#80
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Apple Valley, MN
Drives: 97 GSX, 95 TSI, 04 Celica TRD
Posts: 120
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Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
OK guys. Im having technical difficulties with the computer and the internet getting along with eachother, among other things. Im working to get this stuff fixed, and hopefully up before the weekend.
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