10-14-2005
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Burp!
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Blaine
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Flamidation Valve Going Bad?
Car: 94 Talon tsi AWD, with lsd and stock mounts
Problem:
When I take off from a stop sign or light (even slowly) I hear my wheels spin. Started about a week ago. When I shift from 1st to 2nd, I hear the same squeal/spin. Same sound when I shift from 2 to 3 and now recently (since ysterday) from 3rd to 4th.
This sound is reminiscent of what would happen on hard takeoff and from 1st to 2nd in my 95 GST (except in that case it would happen on hard takeoffs, not slow takeoffs like I'm doing now)
All of the above described problem on my 94 talon awd is not hard shifting or anything severe - I do it at VERY low speed (in fact, I saw it was happening even without me going into boost).
History and background:
I DO shift hard and take off hard almost all the time and this is my DD. I stopped doing this a week ago and started shifting like an old lady for the last week until I know for sure that I'm not in the process of breaking anything.
What the hell is slipping? Why are my wheels slipping?
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10-14-2005
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aka Goodbye
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Re: Wheel spin developed recently in all gears except 5th
Your center diff is broke and you are now front wheel drive. That or your xfer case and driveshaft fell off somewhere.
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10-15-2005
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Admin
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Re: Wheel spin developed recently in all gears except 5th
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Originally Posted by Goat Blower
Your center diff is broke and you are now front wheel drive. That or your xfer case and driveshaft fell off somewhere.
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10-16-2005
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Asshat King
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: Wheel spin developed recently in all gears except 5th
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Originally Posted by Goat Blower
Your center diff is broke and you are now front wheel drive. That or your xfer case and driveshaft fell off somewhere.
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Holy shit I damn near fell out of my chair after reading that!
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Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX
It must have fell off. So that must not be your problem.
I would start looking at the center diff as we said before.
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....and that!
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10-15-2005
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Burp!
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Blaine
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Re: Wheel spin developed recently in all gears except 5th
If the transfer case fell off, how is my car still running? It's not dripping oil at all.
How will I know if my center diff is broken?
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10-15-2005
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: I wish somewhere less rainy!
Drives: She is 22, black, slow and does not play fair.
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Re: Wheel spin developed recently in all gears except 5th
Is your car lowered? If so your alignment could be off. This will cause tires to sqeak.
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10-15-2005
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Burp!
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Re: Wheel spin developed recently in all gears except 5th
Not lowered that I know of. I just bought the car from Kenny a month ago (TGPilot). He didn't mention that he had it lowered.
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10-15-2005
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: I wish somewhere less rainy!
Drives: She is 22, black, slow and does not play fair.
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Re: Wheel spin developed recently in all gears except 5th
Check for uneven tire wear and tire pressure. Check you transfer fluid because it might of all leaked out.
"That or your xfer case and driveshaft fell off somewhere." Steve is just being sarcastic.
I would drive with caution until you know what is wrong with your car. Oh by the way welcome to the world of DSM (don't save money).
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10-15-2005
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Burp!
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Re: Wheel spin developed recently in all gears except 5th
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Originally Posted by x-pride
Check for uneven tire wear and tire pressure. Check you transfer fluid because it might of all leaked out.
"That or your xfer case and driveshaft fell off somewhere." Steve is just being sarcastic.
I would drive with caution until you know what is wrong with your car. Oh by the way welcome to the world of DSM (don't save money).
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Dude,
I REALLY REALLY hope thats the case - uneven tire pressure. If it's just that, then lunch is on me!!!!!
Otherwise I'm REALLY fucked.
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10-15-2005
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Resident Redneck
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Corpus Christi, Texas
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Re: Wheel spin developed recently in all gears except 5th
It's probably a belt squealing. Check them.
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10-15-2005
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Burp!
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Re: Wheel spin developed recently in all gears except 5th
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Originally Posted by Super4x4Duty
It's probably a belt squealing. Check them.
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belts're OK.
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10-15-2005
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aka Goodbye
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Re: Wheel spin developed recently in all gears except 5th
Geez, this ain't that tough. If you are indeed actually hearing and feeling wheelspin, have a friend stand on the passenger side of your car a safe distance away while you nail it from a dead stop. If your friend sees your passenger side front wheel spin, your center diff is broken, plain and simple. If that's not the case, your hearing something else, than refer to the posts above for other sounds and causes.
When I have a welded viscous coupler on my car and no xfer case or driveshaft, it'll spin the front right tire at anything under 100mph without even getting on it hard. The front diff is open, so you've got a one wheel wonder if your rear diff isn't getting any power.
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Last edited by Goat Blower; 10-15-2005 at 11:08 AM..
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10-15-2005
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Admin
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: Wheel spin developed recently in all gears except 5th
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Originally Posted by Goat Blower
Geez, this ain't that tough. If you are indeed actually hearing and feeling wheelspin, have a friend stand on the passenger side of your car a safe distance away while you nail it from a dead stop. If your friend sees your passenger side front wheel spin, your center diff is broken, plain and simple. If that's not the case, your hearing something else, than refer to the posts above for other sounds and causes.
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Yep, what he said
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10-15-2005
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Burp!
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Re: Wheel spin developed recently in all gears except 5th
I think there's a clicking sound coming from the bottom - passenger side front.
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10-15-2005
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Admin
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Re: Wheel spin developed recently in all gears except 5th
Forget about what we told you to do, you are on the right track. Right near the down pipe & x-case is a flamidation valve that's problably sticking, causing it to chatter on acceleration from a stop.
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When she get's bitchy, SPANK THAT ASS! (#Y#)
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10-15-2005
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Burp!
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Re: Wheel spin developed recently in all gears except 5th
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Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX
Forget about what we told you to do, you are on the right track. Right near the down pipe & x-case is a flamidation valve that's problably sticking, causing it to chatter on acceleration from a stop.
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Is it that simple a fix? WOW!!
I'll go see.
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10-16-2005
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Burp!
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Re: Wheel spin developed recently in all gears except 5th
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX
Forget about what we told you to do, you are on the right track. Right near the down pipe & x-case is a flamidation valve that's problably sticking, causing it to chatter on acceleration from a stop.
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How do I know which one it is? I looked and there's didn't seem to be anything looking like a valve. Would anyone happen to have a pic?
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10-16-2005
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Re: Wheel spin developed recently in all gears except 5th
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Originally Posted by rk4g63
How do I know which one it is? I looked and there's didn't seem to be anything looking like a valve. Would anyone happen to have a pic?
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You can't miss it. its right near the down pipe & transfer-case.
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10-16-2005
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Asshat King
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: Wheel spin developed recently in all gears except 5th
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Originally Posted by SpicyOrange
You can't miss it. its right near the down pipe & transfer-case.
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I just checked mine yesterday when I was working on my Laser's clutch issues. You'll find it RK.
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10-16-2005
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Admin
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Re: Wheel spin developed recently in all gears except 5th
But you know, now that I think about it?!?!?! You really should find another flamidation valve and swap it out before you go any further. Or you'll just be wasting our time and yours.
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