02-05-2014
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: team ab drag race and street builds
TR6060 trans is your friend or Viper-spec T56.
There are plenty of guys making power on manual transmission, you just need to talk to them. From what I see a twin disk is a must at higher power levels, I'd say keep an eye out for a dogbox since you guys are putting quality parts in the cars.
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02-05-2014
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#22
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Grand Rapids
Drives: 98 gsx
Posts: 813
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Re: team ab drag race and street builds
Aaron unless I'm mistaken on this ^ we are also not looking to go rwd at this point either.
Dog box is a very real option also. I think for now unless finding a deal we are thinking jacks 2.2 had gears or evo gears and hoping someone has an opinion on that.
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02-05-2014
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#23
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N17r0U$ br4D
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Re: team ab drag race and street builds
http://www.teamrip.com/DSM_AWD_STAGE...D_SERVICE.html
I had that trans in my car back in the day with the 4 spider and thing shifted really nice. With a twin disc I could shift at 8k like butter
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02-05-2014
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
Drives: G37, 91 TSi
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Re: team ab drag race and street builds
I would look at TMZ as well.
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02-05-2014
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Grand Rapids
Drives: 98 gsx
Posts: 813
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Re: team ab drag race and street builds
I've looked at them all Tim or tmz stage 4 $3200. John stage 4 $2600. Jacks 2.2 $2600. I think Tim was maybe quoting shipping too idk. Why is jack saying evo 3 gears won't hold up and to get his 2.2hd but yet Tim and john sell evo 3 as stage 4 like jacks stage 3 and say they are fine?
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02-05-2014
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
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Re: team ab drag race and street builds
Evo 3 gears seem to be doing fine in John's Galant
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02-05-2014
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#27
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: South Minneapolis
Drives: 1gb Talon TSi AWD
Posts: 525
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Re: team ab drag race and street builds
Both the HD gears and evo3 gears are very strong, I recently read somewhere the evo3 gears are physically narrower than the HD gears which could lead you to believe they aren't as strong, there is tons of info on this subject available. I like the close ratio of the evo3 gears.
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02-05-2014
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#28
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Grand Rapids
Drives: 98 gsx
Posts: 813
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Re: team ab drag race and street builds
That's great info guys. I know it's a luxury to buy a built trans just didn't realize the burdon of picking what one or what company.
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02-05-2014
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#29
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Re: team ab drag race and street builds
Not real sure you can pick a wrong one. I've never really heard any bad things about any of them. I didn't have the best luck with my TRE, but it was a freak thing and I wouldn't hesitate to buy another from Jon if I needed one. Best thing to do is pick up the phone and talk to each of them and go with who you are most comfortable with.
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02-06-2014
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#30
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Grand Rapids
Drives: 98 gsx
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Re: team ab drag race and street builds
so was this freak thing something that was ur fault or his? how did he react. i like johns personality and the times we have talked he really seems great. He also seems to do more of the old school stuff like detailing gears etc, just like an old engine builder who takes all the flash out of a head because it's the details that matter. prices seem fair, really the only thing i'd like to know is in comparison what trans will be better johns stage four or jack's 2.2hd for me. btw thanks goodhart and all who have contributed to this project thread. Bear with me on this one as the trans will be the most indecisive part of my build that I foresee.
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02-06-2014
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Kevin
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Shoreview
Posts: 3,356
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Re: team ab drag race and street builds
Having dealy with Jacks Transmissions and Shep Trans (which isnt an option) I'd say your screwed. I had a very bad experience with Jacks and I would not recommend them.
My Jacks built tranny broke after 5,000 miles of normal driving on a low power car. They were horrible at communicating and I was never satisfied.
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02-06-2014
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#32
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Grand Rapids
Drives: 98 gsx
Posts: 813
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Re: team ab drag race and street builds
^ no I'm not screwed as john and Tim are still options. That's too bad about your relationship with jacks.
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02-06-2014
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#33
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: team ab drag race and street builds
I had a tough time with TRE, after I bought the trans, I couldn't get a hold of the guy.which is a shame since we met in person in eau Claire to do the deal.
I'd go with jacks, he has a lot of R&D into DSM trans.
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02-06-2014
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#34
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: team ab drag race and street builds
You could also try a faceplated trans from liberty or thru Raif at RRT. I've heard good things about his work.
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02-06-2014
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#35
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Grand Rapids
Drives: 98 gsx
Posts: 813
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Re: team ab drag race and street builds
^ never heard of this faceplated stuff I will do some looking. Damn one bad for each now lol
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02-06-2014
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#36
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aka Goodbye
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Re: team ab drag race and street builds
I only ever used Shep, but without that option, I'd probably go with TMZ as he's good and reasonably close. I just picked up the Evo3 5th gearset from him, easy to deal with.
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02-06-2014
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#37
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
Drives: G37, 91 TSi
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Re: team ab drag race and street builds
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Originally Posted by dsmreck
so was this freak thing something that was ur fault or his? how did he react. i like johns personality and the times we have talked he really seems great. He also seems to do more of the old school stuff like detailing gears etc, just like an old engine builder who takes all the flash out of a head because it's the details that matter. prices seem fair, really the only thing i'd like to know is in comparison what trans will be better johns stage four or jack's 2.2hd for me. btw thanks goodhart and all who have contributed to this project thread. Bear with me on this one as the trans will be the most indecisive part of my build that I foresee.
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The issue was my fault I suppose. It certainly wasn't his fault, but he felt bad and still tried to make it right, so he gave me a free evo diff cover (I had bought an Evo by that point) Overall, I thought Jon was a great guy, I never really had an issue getting ahold of him.
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02-06-2014
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#38
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Grand Rapids
Drives: 98 gsx
Posts: 813
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Re: team ab drag race and street builds
I really want to just build my own at some point as I'm sure I'll end up going through a few of them. I just haven't seen a write up or anything into detail enough to want to try it at the moment. I'm Deff gonna have a decision to make here as all three that are left are most likely all great options really. Than maybe I'll pick up a spare and learn how to build one myself. Anyone ever try the hd gears that jack is claiming to be better than evo?
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02-09-2014
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#39
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Grand Rapids
Drives: 98 gsx
Posts: 813
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Re: team ab drag race and street builds
Did some powder coating today for the first time and the results were awesome. Next will be that ugly compressor cover and who knows what else. Should add around 50 hp or so.
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02-09-2014
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#40
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mankato
Drives: 2004 Evo 8
Posts: 1,152
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Re: team ab drag race and street builds
What about Ron at RS Motors? He does tons of rebuilds on Evo transmissions. Just a thought.
Also nice work on the powder coating, did it yourself? You must have access to some of the tools needed
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