08-05-2008
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Re: bad idea or terrible idea?
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Originally Posted by Matt D.
I'm convinced that iceminion and Tom chat late at night and come up with these things and give eachother advice in general.
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DAMN YOU!! While reading this i was telling myself "do not draw attention to yourself and perhaps they group you with him." Then Matt had to go and talk shit. Like always...
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08-05-2008
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Maple Grove, MN
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Re: bad idea or terrible idea?
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Originally Posted by iceminion
the engine was rebuilt, and then was used in my brother's laser which put down an estimated 350 whp (not bragging, just it was pushing some serious HP)
he was constantly plagued by oil leaking over everything, we tried every trick in the book to stop the oil seeping out of the top end, to no avail.
My brother decided to quit while he was ahead, parted his car, and bought a 2g. I grabbed his motor.
So, all I am doing is applying a feature common on other turbocharded cars.
I drilled the hold in a non-structeral location on the side of the block, I didnt drill through any major "webbing" in the casting.
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350 is not Serious HP, esp. today.
and the oil leaking could likely be fixed by sealing the individual leaks, or building the motor properly. Whenever i had a problem with the oil leaking out the vc, its always been either the valve cover is cracked, or the gasket is shot. Get a new rubber gasket and call it a day.
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Last edited by tpunx99GSX; 08-05-2008 at 10:32 AM..
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08-05-2008
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Re: bad idea or terrible idea?
I think something to draw the air out would be better, but letting the air out easier shouldn't hurt.
The REAL question is, why was it leaking oil everywhere? There are 1000's (maybe millions?) of other 4g63's that didn't need this mod to not leak oil all over.
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08-05-2008
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Kevin
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Re: bad idea or terrible idea?
I don't think it's a horrible idea? Won't this really really relieve crank case pressure? Assuming it doesnt leak, I'm sure there might be standing oil in the line? I guess I just imagine oil being forced out of there, but then again it doesn't "normally" shoot out of our dipstick lol.
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08-05-2008
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Shit Rocket Pilot
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: bad idea or terrible idea?
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Originally Posted by sleepydsm
I don't think it's a horrible idea? Won't this really really relieve crank case pressure?
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Why put the block's integrity into question when adding a larger pipe in the valve cover would suffice?
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08-05-2008
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It was a auto get over it
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Re: bad idea or terrible idea?
sad thing is its to late
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08-05-2008
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Manic Narcissistic
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Re: bad idea or terrible idea?
This is going on my rebuild for sure!
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08-05-2008
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Where is my custom title?
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Re: bad idea or terrible idea?
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Originally Posted by iceminion
what I am worried about is still leaking oil after all of this. then I will have wasted my time with this mod.
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There is you answer. If you are worried about it why would you do it in the first plac???e
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08-05-2008
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Built it from scratch!
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: St. Paul
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Re: bad idea or terrible idea?
Just let us know if it work. I if it has been done on other turbo charged engines in a similar manor, it might work. I have heard of this mod on the ford block also.
It is done already now just wait and see the results
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08-05-2008
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: bad idea or terrible idea?
Done yet?
Work or not i will stay with the bigger holes in the valve cover mod.
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08-05-2008
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15min late to the world
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Re: bad idea or terrible idea?
I would do a leak down test to see how much blow by you are getting. What was your compression test method and brand of gauge? Also did you check all the machined surfaces on the block to make sure they are flat, with a straight edge and feeler gauge? If the block is warped it will leak oil like crazy. Also where is the oil coming from? and do not say "from everywhere" it has to be coming from seals, gaskets, cracks, etc. The idea of venting more crank case pressure is good, but I do not see it as needed in this case, the valve cover is a little easy to drill into. Who did the machine work and assemble on the motor again?
~John
John Gosh is a well rounded machinist, not some legend of 4g63 building, thats Rick Shindly.
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08-05-2008
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Re: bad idea or terrible idea?
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Originally Posted by Pushit2.0
John Gosh is a well rounded machinist, not some legend of 4g63 building, thats Rick Shindly.
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ROFL... Quote of the year!
And I agree with terrible idea, but its your motor, you do what you like.
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08-05-2008
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Re: bad idea or terrible idea?
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Originally Posted by Pushit2.0
John Gosh is a well rounded machinist
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are you calling him fat? UR MEAN
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08-05-2008
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I hate everyone
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Blaine
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Re: bad idea or terrible idea?
I'm going with terrible idea...
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There are 1000's (maybe millions?) of other 4g63's that didn't need this mod to not leak oil all over.
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where is the oil coming from? and do not say "from everywhere" it has to be coming from seals, gaskets, cracks, etc.
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John Gosh is a well rounded machinist, not some legend of 4g63 building, thats Rick Shindly.
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Nuff said, I think. There's no need to re-invent the wheel when there's easier, proven methods that won't PUT A HOLE IN THE SIDE OF YOUR ENGINE BLOCK
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08-06-2008
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back in the saddle again
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Re: bad idea or terrible idea?
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Originally Posted by b00stcreep21
I'm going with terrible idea...
Nuff said, I think. There's no need to re-invent the wheel when there's easier, proven methods that won't PUT A HOLE IN THE SIDE OF YOUR ENGINE BLOCK
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Fucking Epic.
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08-06-2008
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#36
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Maple Grove
Posts: 956
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Re: bad idea or terrible idea?
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Originally Posted by Pushit2.0
I would do a leak down test to see how much blow by you are getting.
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I agree, this should be done.
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Originally Posted by Pushit2.0
What was your compression test method and brand of gauge?
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Wal-Mart, we bought it to determine if a friends engine had bent valves, all i can trust it to do is tell me if i have ANY psi in a cylinder
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Originally Posted by Pushit2.0
Also did you check all the machined surfaces on the block to make sure they are flat, with a straight edge and feeler gauge?
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John Gosh did this for me, resurfaced the block.
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Originally Posted by Pushit2.0
If the block is warped it will leak oil like crazy.
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not going to rule this out, its possible
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Originally Posted by Pushit2.0
Also where is the oil coming from? and do not say "from everywhere" it has to be coming from seals, gaskets, cracks, etc.
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From everywhere. JK the whole engine/transmission was coated with gunk and grime, i just finished cleaning the whole assy up today, see attached pic. it was black when i started this. and I have added a bottle of dye to trace any leaks WHEN they surface
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Originally Posted by Pushit2.0
The idea of venting more crank case pressure is good, but I do not see it as needed in this case, the valve cover is a little easy to drill into. Who did the machine work and assemble on the motor again?
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I am in no way suggesting that everyone do this, just i think this is going to be a fun experiment.
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Originally Posted by Pushit2.0
John Gosh is a well rounded machinist, not some legend of 4g63 building, thats Rick Shindly.
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True, but i learned everything I know about DSMs through rick, back when he was working on DSMs (is he still doing this?)
therefore, I am as crazy as rick.
Also, if John Gosh looks at a block, feels the metal, and says "there should be no problem with block strength if you drill a hole right....there" I am going to believe him over what anyone else here says. DSM pro or not
The second picture is a counter-measure to Boostcreeps picture
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08-06-2008
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Maple Grove
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Re: bad idea or terrible idea?
Oh, how do you like my factory heatshield over my SBR v1 manifold?
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08-06-2008
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#38
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Cottage Grove
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Re: bad idea or terrible idea?
Well, at least you're not really advertising for SBR, considering the manifold is covered up...
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08-09-2008
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#39
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Maple Grove
Posts: 956
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Re: bad idea or terrible idea?
Project update: got motor installed, it was a total bitch with that stock ABS. I had that engine at such a messed up angle to get it in there! I hope i never have to do that swap again!
Pictures are of my intercooler piping and my supra sidemount. I know that it is really old school, but who cares? it was free!
I really want a FMIC, but im saving up for a house and I just cant budged it in right now.
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08-18-2008
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Banned
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Brooklyn Park
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Re: bad idea or terrible idea?
I heard the engine blew driving it down the block
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