06-15-2004
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I recently purchased a TurboXS H-RFL and wanted to know if i could run that on my eclipse without recirculating considering the bov vents to the atmosphere or are there problems with doing such... :headache:
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06-15-2004
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You can run it venting. You may get bad idle and a CEL code though. I have seen cars vent fine, no idle problems and no CEL, and I have seen others that do not idle and throw a CEL after a while. Put it on and see how you like it and how your car takes it. It is not going to hurt anything at all. If the CEL comes on and you are going to take the bov off, just reset the computer and swap them. BTW, a CEL is just for fuel trim malfuntion. Not something VERY important. I know a few people who drive around with it on.
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06-15-2004
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I wouldn't worry about the CEL as much as the car running rich inbetween shifts because the car is going to exspect that air being blown off is going back into the intake.
Just because you can do it doens't mean its going to be functional. Yeah you may think it sounds cool and that its not hurting anyway, but unless you have a stand alone ECU or a MAFT where it won't expect that air to come back into the intake pipe its going to hamper your performance no questions asked. Unless someone has some magical way around this.....
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06-15-2004
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Quote:
Originally posted by CUSTOMDSM@Jun 15 2004, 03:57 AM
Unless someone has some magical way around this.....
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Shift quick :secret: . You dont necessarily loose power, you just get a hesitation when shifting for a second. It will seem to bog down a bit. Dont think I would see a hp gain switching from a vented bov to a not.
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06-15-2004
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so how much am i looking at to get a stand alone ecu or do something about gettin rid of this CEL....sorry im such a noob i bought the car a couple months ago
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06-15-2004
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Craig said "hamper your performance" not lose hp. Bogging between shifts is going to make your car slower and hamper performance. You may also run into a problem at idle if the BOV leaks. The RFL's are actually decent at idle, so you may be ok there. Overall it is a newbie/ricer thing to do without the proper electronics to allow you to do it correctly.
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06-15-2004
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Get a HKS SSQV. They don't leak at idle when tightened like most others. They are the only ones I've seen work well on a 2G without throwing codes or having to be re-directed.
Don't listen to Honda guys when buying DSM parts.
-Matt
Edit: Afte seeing other posts i see the CEL thing is truely Random........I stand corrected from the above statement.
Thanks, Matt
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06-15-2004
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yea i was told i shouldnt put this bov on until i have a standalone ECU.....like an AEM AMS...which i have the money to do so
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06-15-2004
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I don't get it? Full Standalone to run a Turbo XS BOV? Why not save over a grand and get a 1G BOV and crush it. Or maybe a Greddy Type S and re circulate it. Take that cash and dump it into the motor or more bolt ons.
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06-15-2004
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id figure id get a full standalone becuz this is my second car and its not my daily drive and i want it to be something special with a lot of power for the weekends..
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06-15-2004
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thats a really cool idea. i bet it will sound awesome.
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06-15-2004
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should i jsut send this BOV back and order a GReedy Type-S with a recirulating kit.....and can someone give me a link to where i can find a recirculating kit
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06-16-2004
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Area code 166 represent
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the greddy type s uses the same dump tube of your stock BOV.
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06-16-2004
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Quote:
Originally posted by tonster0728@Jun 15 2004, 10:02 PM
yea i was told i shouldnt put this bov on until i have a standalone ECU.....like an AEM AMS...which i have the money to do so
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Never heard of the AEM AMS.... what's that stand for? Air Modulator System specially made to vent bov's? :secret:
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06-16-2004
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You do not need a stand alone to vent a bov. Just put it on and see how your car acts. Every car is different. My car hated venting a HKS ssqv bov which works great on someone elses car. My brothers 2g throws a CEL venting and my friends doesn't with the same bov you have.
Guess I am just one of those ricers that vents when I dont know how to correctly....
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06-16-2004
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I run 3 BOVs venting into each other. It works great and sounds awesome.
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06-16-2004
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aright 92tsiawd ill try it
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06-16-2004
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Just put it on and see what happens. You will probably be fine with it venting. Even if the cell comes on from it, don't worry about it. It would probably take a little driving for it to go on anyways and wouldn't cause any problems. Mine would go on and off. I gave it to my friend with another 2g and his didn't go on at all. It shouldn't cause any problems and as long as it idles, you are fine.
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06-17-2004
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I have the SSQV on my 2g right now. And it hates venting. I threw a CEL, and my car runs like dirt. I decided to get the recirculating kit for it. If I were you, Id just get one that recirculates, Im not sure if the RFL has a kit available to do that though.
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06-17-2004
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Been there, done that.
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I've been running the Blitz BOV - Vented to atmosphere on both my 1996 and my 1995 GSX - had it for going on 5 years. with "Zero" problems. using a SAFC for most of it. And now a DSMLINK.
But I will say my car was slow to get power between shifts until I went DSMLINK.
But that's because I'm using the NLTS feature so I just keep my foot on the gas the entire time during a race, and don't let off till the end of run.
I agree with Craig and Jet - due to your car going rich between shifts it'll take an extra second for it to correct the fuel once you get back into gear. Or at least that's what if feels like when I drove with the SAFC. (or when I don't use the NLTS)
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