10-26-2012
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Transmission destroyer
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Re: Question for the turbo gurus out there
Billet HX52?
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10-27-2012
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#22
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: Question for the turbo gurus out there
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Originally Posted by goodhart
Billet HX52?
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Now there's an idea! Any idea on the price or where to get holsets?
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10-27-2012
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#23
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15min late to the world
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Re: Question for the turbo gurus out there
I have a gt 4202 standard bearing 2l build that makes good power. Last year at 44psi on e98 my car made 947awhp at DB in shoot out mode.
I will buy a billet 67 or Borg Warner version of the 4202 when this turbo lets the ghost out, so far 3 years at 40psi+ but I know my days are numbered.
Call up MAP for a good price when you make a choice on turbo brand and size.
~John
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10-27-2012
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Transmission destroyer
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Re: Question for the turbo gurus out there
If you are interested in holsets I would check diesel sites. Or get a used one, the rebuild kits are like $40.
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I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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10-27-2012
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: Question for the turbo gurus out there
I have a rebuild kit I need to get rid of.
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10-27-2012
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#26
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: Question for the turbo gurus out there
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Originally Posted by Pushit2.0
I have a gt 4202 standard bearing 2l build that makes good power. Last year at 44psi on e98 my car made 947awhp at DB in shoot out mode.
I will buy a billet 67 or Borg Warner version of the 4202 when this turbo lets the ghost out, so far 3 years at 40psi+ but I know my days are numbered.
Call up MAP for a good price when you make a choice on turbo brand and size.
~John
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Ok sounds good ill call map and see what they have to say too. Sounds like I might as well stick with the 4294 for now since there is a good chunk left in it
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Originally Posted by goodhart
If are interested in holsets I would check diesel sites. Or get a used one, the rebuild kits are like $40.
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Ok ill search around see what I can come up with. Thanks
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10-29-2012
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formerly ecoli
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Re: Question for the turbo gurus out there
Well, just because the 4294 can do 850 on some cars doesn't mean your car will ever get to that. Turbo size alone does not determine power output, look at Vassils car and the power it made at not even that crazy of boost levels, most people won't even get close to touching those numbers with the same turbo, but he has his combo working extremely well.
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10-29-2012
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#28
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: Question for the turbo gurus out there
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Originally Posted by Shane@DBPerformance
Well, just because the 4294 can do 850 on some cars doesn't mean your car will ever get to that. Turbo size alone does not determine power output, look at Vassils car and the power it made at not even that crazy of boost levels, most people won't even get close to touching those numbers with the same turbo, but he has his combo working extremely well.
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Oh I know just because something is capable of something or a setup should produce a certain power doesn't mean it will. It made good power before and sticking with the 4294 is looking to be the most cost effective way to get the car back on the road unless I find a killer deal on something. There are some minor changes like different injectors and porting and polishing of the head. So hopefully we can at least get it back to where it was before and then go from there.
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10-30-2012
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#29
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Pewp Champion
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Re: Question for the turbo gurus out there
Might be a hair smaller than what you're looking for, but someone is selling a brand new S364 (I've never heard of this size before) for dirt cheap. Figured worth mentioning though.
http://supraforumz.com/mkiv-and-2jz-...rbo/?topicseen
The 63mm is rated around 75lb/min, and the 66mm is rated around 82lb/min. So this would probably be somewhere around 77lb/min, but again never heard of a 64mm comp wheel BW before.
Also here is the 66mm's for cheap in case anyone else is interested. They also offer in house designed billet compressor wheel "upgrades" as well.
http://supraforumz.com/boost-lab/sup...bw-s366-91-ar/
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11-01-2012
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#30
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Oakdale, MN
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Re: Question for the turbo gurus out there
If you want cheap and still make good power then a billet HX52 with a 16cm turbine housing isn't a bad turbo, if you are looking for something with a little better spool time and as good or better flow and are willing to spend the money I would go with a PTE 6466, that is a very good turbo but they only offer it in dual BB no a cheaper journal bearing option, there is also a GT4288 off a diesel on craigslist for $200, idk what you could use to fix yours or whatever but here is the link http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/cs...317543854.html
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11-01-2012
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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Re: Question for the turbo gurus out there
Just a question but why does this car keep eating turbos? Didnt swifty just replace it? I just think its weird that this thing keeps needing turbos
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11-01-2012
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Re: Question for the turbo gurus out there
When the motor popped something went through the exhaust and hit the turbine wheel... Piece of valve, piston, whatever it was it chipped a blade if I remember correctly.
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11-01-2012
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#33
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Oakdale, MN
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Re: Question for the turbo gurus out there
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Originally Posted by 93gtpeater
Just a question but why does this car keep eating turbos? Didnt swifty just replace it? I just think its weird that this thing keeps needing turbos
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If it has a turbo eating problem #1 is to figure out how the turbo is failing, thrust bearing failure is usually indicative of an outside problem like intake restriction or exhaust restriction or a malfunctioning and/or under sized bov, if the journal bearings are failing check oil pressure and make sure the oil drain is free flowing and that the correct size restrictor is being used if there even needs to be one on it at all, Holsets don't need them usually, and an inline oil filter might not be a bad idea also if it doesn't have one, if it does have one make sure it is clean and flows freely, also was the turbo that was put on it new from Garrett or used and/or rebuilt, if used and/or rebuilt then improper assembly/balancing could have been an issue. Just what I know about turbo problems
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11-01-2012
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#34
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: Question for the turbo gurus out there
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Originally Posted by EclipseGST
When the motor popped something went through the exhaust and hit the turbine wheel... Piece of valve, piston, whatever it was it chipped a blade if I remember correctly.
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You are correct sir. The only thing wrong with the turbo is a chipped exhaust wheel. To fix the current turbo it will be 750 to fix it. Since I can get a new center section for 950 I really can't justify fixing it. So since I have to shell out a grand anyway I figure it might be worth it to look into if there is a better option to make as much or more power than a gt4294
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11-01-2012
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#35
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: Question for the turbo gurus out there
Double post. Stupid phone lol
Last edited by 4seasons69; 11-01-2012 at 10:42 PM..
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11-02-2012
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#36
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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Re: Question for the turbo gurus out there
There is a 4202R in the sales thread, or go to a JB PTE 6766.
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11-02-2012
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#37
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: Question for the turbo gurus out there
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Originally Posted by Mark Leasure
There is a 4202R in the sales thread, or go to a JB PTE 6766.
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I seen the 4202R in the fs thread. It's a pretty good deal so if I can come up with the funds before it sells ill probably pick it up.
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