03-29-2006
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AznKraut
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Runs Too Cold
Hey everyone. Well, here's the problem.
1990 Plymouth Laser RS-T..STOCK
Our temp gauge is suppose to sit straight up and down when at normal operating temperatures, right? Well mine sits right above the 1/4 hash mark on the gauge. Sometimes it will creep towards straight up and down, but really only makes it to a position similar to 10 o'clock. I thought my thermostat may be stuck open, but when I examined it, it's clean, and looks like it was replaced before I got a hold of it. The engine doesn't smoke and shows no signs of overheating. I do have a SMALL coolant leak coming from one of the heater core hoses, but I don't know why those would contribute to an engine running too cool. Suggestions are good! Thanks for reading! Sorry it's so long.
-Jason
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03-29-2006
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: Runs Too Cold
Replace the thermostat again with a quality Mitsu one, a lot of the time the aftermarket ones are pretty crappy and wear out quickly. I've encountered a few that were junk right out of the box. Have you tested your coolant to make sure its near a 50/50 mix? Also wouldn't be a bad idea to hook your car up to a Datalogger so you can get an exact coolant temp reading, maybe your temp gauge sensor is just faulty.
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I agree with Kracka.
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03-29-2006
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Red Wing, MN
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Re: Runs Too Cold
Do you have good heat?
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03-29-2006
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Smells Like Fish
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Re: Runs Too Cold
The night that I drove the car the temp was ok, it rose to the 50.99% mark (every turbodsm i have ever owned/driven has operated similiarly)
it got pretty dropped down to ~45% when i drove it, but i assume that was because of a bad thermostat.
But this was a week ago, and I am curious as to WHY it is misbehaving now......you can put your hand on the engine, and if it is really running that cold you will be able to tell, but if it hurts your hand, then its probably running at normal temp, AND SINCE WE JUST DID AN ENGINE PULL, THE SENSOR/WIRES COULD HAVE BEEN DAMAGED/BROKEN -just a thought...
but for now, replace those gay ass OEM coolant lines with new ones, and get t-clamps for everything....I assume that those old hoses are the ONLY place your engine is leaking now (aside from the valve cover gasket leak)
so fix everythign you can, hammer out the easy things, did you get the wheel bearing replaced yet?
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03-29-2006
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AznKraut
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Re: Runs Too Cold
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Originally Posted by TheBlizzard
Do you have good heat?
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yep, good heat.
i will replace my thermostat tomorrow and get back to you all. If that doesn't work, I'll try to find someplace/someone with a datalogger and work from there. Thanks for all the suggestions.
-Jason
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03-30-2006
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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Re: Runs Too Cold
If you want to test a thermostat you can just stick it in a pot of water on the stove. Just incase you do want to test it
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03-31-2006
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AznKraut
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Re: Runs Too Cold
and at a certain temp. it should open, correct?
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03-31-2006
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: Runs Too Cold
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Originally Posted by GVR-4579
If you want to test a thermostat you can just stick it in a pot of water on the stove. Just incase you do want to test it
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Unless you have an accurate thermometer in the water that won't show much of anything. We already know its opening since the car is not over-heating.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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03-31-2006
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Manic Narcissistic
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Re: Runs Too Cold
Too cold of a thermostat range, or the thermostat is just staying stuck open. Hear about this alot actually. Heck, my GSX is doing it right now.
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03-31-2006
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AznKraut
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Re: Runs Too Cold
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Originally Posted by RLFebo
Too cold of a thermostat range, or the thermostat is just staying stuck open. Hear about this alot actually. Heck, my GSX is doing it right now.
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So, maybe I have the wrong kind of thermostat in? But why would it be stuck open? Wouldn't it be stuck closed, if anything?
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03-31-2006
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Manic Narcissistic
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Re: Runs Too Cold
Well, stuck open... weakend to where it will open at low temps... same thing. But if your not over heating, its not stuck close, its just not closing period if your overcooling.
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03-31-2006
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AznKraut
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Re: Runs Too Cold
Okay, well I'll throw in a new thermostat Sunday, and see what happens. But I also have to re-do my oil cooler lines too. blah...I'm truely experiencing the begining of the DSM curse. lol
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04-01-2006
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Manic Narcissistic
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Re: Runs Too Cold
Oh, god, you just dont even know.... may as well replace the upper and lower radiator hoses... and the radiator, you know, just as some preventative maitnence.
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04-01-2006
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: Runs Too Cold
The thermostat is a good place to start at least since its cheap, easy to do, and a wear item that needs periodic replacement anyway.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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04-01-2006
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AznKraut
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Re: Runs Too Cold
Great, thanks for all your help guys. I'll report back when I get my FMIC piping worked out and such.
-Jason
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