12-06-2010
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Take a look at these cams...
Goodhart, I'm not trying to diss the product you sold me. I just don't know enough to know if I should be concerned about this.
Look at the main journals on the cam, they are a bit scored, enough so that I can just barely feel it with my fingernail.
Are these okay to run? I suspect its not a big deal but I dont want to have to rip these out again, or damage my rebuilt head.
*note: the little stringy things are just threads from the rag I was holding it with, not metal shavings or anything.
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12-06-2010
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: Take a look at these cams...
If you can feel it with your fingernail I wouldn't run them.
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12-06-2010
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Re: Take a look at these cams...
do you have anything or a machine shop that could check if they're close to spec? (and maybe polish them)
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12-06-2010
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Re: Take a look at these cams...
I will mic them and probably also have a machine shop check them
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Re: Take a look at these cams...
Those journals look pretty beat.
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12-06-2010
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Re: Take a look at these cams...
^Word. I wouldn't run them.
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12-06-2010
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Re: Take a look at these cams...
Can machine shops even do much about it? if you take much material off, they're just unusable, aren't they? Since there aren't any bearings for the cam journals, the cam just directly contacts the head.
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12-06-2010
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15min late to the world
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Re: Take a look at these cams...
I would take them to a machine shop, have them polish them up and see if they are still with in spec. It would be just like polishing a crank.
~John
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12-06-2010
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Re: Take a look at these cams...
Yeah, gonna take them to Headwerks tomorrow and see what they say.
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12-06-2010
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Finally Tuned...
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Re: Take a look at these cams...
Polish out the high spots and run them!
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12-06-2010
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Transmission destroyer
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Re: Take a look at these cams...
Wow I finally got a chance to see these pics here at home. Those pics sure don't do them any justice!! lol They didn't seem to look quite that bad in person.
But, like I said in my PM, let me know how you end up and we'll work something out. I'm not out to rip anyone off.
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Re: Take a look at these cams...
Thanks dude. I have no beef with Mike at the moment, it sounds like he is going to work this out with me. Sweet!
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12-06-2010
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15min late to the world
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Re: Take a look at these cams...
What cams are they? And about how many miles with what oil, and how often it was changed? They look like a used cam.
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Transmission destroyer
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Re: Take a look at these cams...
They are Crower Stage 2 cams (272's) out of my 1g. Pretty sure Scheides put them in the car waaay back in the day. lol
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I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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12-07-2010
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Re: Take a look at these cams...
the cam lobes look great, but the main journals aren't so good... makes me think the cam caps were improperly torqued or installed wrong or something?
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Re: Take a look at these cams...
Hahah! None of my DSMs ever had anything but stock cams in them.
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12-07-2010
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Re: Take a look at these cams...
all better.
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It was a auto get over it
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Re: Take a look at these cams...
damn they cleaned those up real nice
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12-07-2010
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Re: Take a look at these cams...
What about the grooves you could feel with a finger? Those cant be cleaned up without actually taking material off.
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12-07-2010
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Re: Take a look at these cams...
these are stock cams Polishing takes material off, just a very small amount. I could barely feel the grooves with my fingernail before, and now they're all but gone.
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