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Re: What Oil Restrictor do I need?
Justin at PTE also said the same thing. Journal bearing turbos love oil, and do not need a restrictor. BB turbo's need a restrictor. I feed my 67 from my oil filter housing with a -4 line with no restrictor, my oil return line is a -10 (keep in mind my center section is vertical as well and not at all at a angle). I have never had a problem with my turbo since changing to this setup suggested by PTE.
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Re: What Oil Restrictor do I need?
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Originally Posted by scheides
Boyle's law is a gas law, and last time I checked, oil isn't generally in gaseous form in an engine. That would probably be bad
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Beat me to it.
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Shit Rocket Pilot
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Re: What Oil Restrictor do I need?
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Originally Posted by scheides
Boyle's law is a gas law, and last time I checked, oil isn't generally in gaseous form in an engine. That would probably be bad
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Would it not still apply to any material state? A venturi would affect a gas the same as it would a liquid.
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Re: What Oil Restrictor do I need?
How big was the orifice of the oil inlet, at the turbo?
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Originally Posted by santa
Justin at PTE also said the same thing. Journal bearing turbos love oil, and do not need a restrictor. BB turbo's need a restrictor. I feed my 67 from my oil filter housing with a -4 line with no restrictor, my oil return line is a -10 (keep in mind my center section is vertical as well and not at all at a angle). I have never had a problem with my turbo since changing to this setup suggested by PTE.
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Boost Spike
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Re: What Oil Restrictor do I need?
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Originally Posted by blackrosenova400
How big was the orifice of the oil inlet, at the turbo?
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-4.... 1/8th npt. just like most turbo's
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: What Oil Restrictor do I need?
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Originally Posted by jhaan_dude
but they share the same center section and bearings and seals.
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Wrong. FP does not use Mitsu center sections.
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I agree with Kracka.
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Re: What Oil Restrictor do I need?
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Re: What Oil Restrictor do I need?
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Originally Posted by jhaan_dude
not that cam's car is an evo but they share the same center section and bearings and seals.
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DSMs and Evos don't come with oil restrictors yet their stock turbos don't have an issue.
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Re: What Oil Restrictor do I need?
This is where the problem lies, misinformation
Actually they do, its at the inlet of the turbo, its just not inline on the oil feed line.
Thats why I asked him to take a pic of this, because if it looks like this instead
Thats where his problem lies.....
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Originally Posted by Matt D.
DSMs and Evos don't come with oil restrictors yet their stock turbos don't have an issue.
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Re: What Oil Restrictor do I need?
http://store.forcedperformance.net/m..._Code=Turbo-FP
well i cant find the link to the green, but the red is made with a garrett compressor wheel and a mitsubishi center section and exhaust wheel. so kracka i dont know what you know, but fp must be wrong.
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: What Oil Restrictor do I need?
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Originally Posted by jhaan_dude
well i cant find the link to the green, but the red is made with a garrett compressor wheel and a mitsubishi center section and exhaust wheel. so kracka i dont know what you know, but fp must be wrong.
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Call FP if you want. None of their stockframe Evo turbos use genuine Mitsu center sections.
Anyways, back to the topic at hand: Why does every turbo you touch turn to junk within miles? Or wait, you don't offer turbo rebuilding services, right?
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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Re: What Oil Restrictor do I need?
already did, and yes their "dsm" turbos do. this whole discussion is about a 2g with oiling problems i could care less about evo turbos.
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Re: What Oil Restrictor do I need?
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already did, and yes their "dsm" turbos do. this whole discussion is about a 2g with oiling problems i could care less about evo turbos.
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Then why did you bring the topic of Evo turbos up?
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I agree with Kracka.
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Re: What Oil Restrictor do I need?
because of the oil pressure to the turbos. nobody has a link to overoiling, only an evo link.
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Re: What Oil Restrictor do I need?
What does the oiling requirements of a non-Mitsu center section Evo turbo have to do with a 20G on a DSM?
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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Re: What Oil Restrictor do I need?
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Originally Posted by Matt D.
Would it not still apply to any material state? A venturi would affect a gas the same as it would a liquid.
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Not so much. Gases are compressible; liquids are not.
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Re: What Oil Restrictor do I need?
wanna clean up the thread so we can get his problem solved?
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Re: What Oil Restrictor do I need?
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Originally Posted by jhaan_dude
wanna clean up the thread so we can get his problem solved?
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His questions have already been answered on page 1.
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I agree with Kracka.
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