Upgraded Brakes...

Matt D. · 03-04-2004

Since I'm in the process of buying pads and rotors I was searching DSMtuners.com and stumbled across this: http://www.electronicauto.com/products/2gt...on/brackets.htm

The thought on Tuners is that the non-turbo 3/S calipers fit DSMs... So why couldn't these brackets be used to bolt the TT 3/S calipers to our cars? It seems that the only thing stopping us would be wheel clearance (if it's even an issue) and rotors that fit. Someone from TCE Performance Products chimed in and said they would probably be able to make rotors that fit.

FORSFED · 03-04-2004

I've been looking into bigger brakes lately as well but I'm not sure what to go with. It seems like that bracket could do the trick, but $180 is ridiculous to spend on a couple of brackets...

**Kracka** · 03-04-2004

If anyone is interested in the 13" Baer track-kit for either 1G's or 2G's please PM me and I'll get you some info and prices.

Matt D. · 03-04-2004

I'd be all over it if I wasn't already spending a ton of cash on the rest of the car...

A//// Guy · 03-04-2004

Yea me too.. too much money for brakes. I like the 3S deal but that sounds like atleatst a couple hundred bucks, Id rather just get the big brakes from the 1Gs.

Hey if you get 3s brakes you wan tot sell me your front calipers matt? hehe Since you need more braking power if your going to be running track laps.

520Talon · 03-05-2004

The best upgrade is to get stainless lines with good fluid. Good fluid doesn't have to cost a fourtune either. I use Ford High Proformance DOT 3. I use Morse Ceramic pads with OEM rotor. They are also the small size, single pot caliper. I run them so hard I have been stopped so people can check for fire.

The only problem I have with the setup is wear. This is on my rally car and I will go through a set of rotors and pads in a weekend. Thats why I focus on the best for the least. Start with that and go for more if you need it.

If you get bigger brakes with fancier pads, but your fluid is boiling cause its bad and you lines are flexing out cause thier weak. You won't stop any better anyway.

Matt D. · 03-05-2004

I'll save the tinkering for a later time... I'm going to go with a setup sold from The Speed Factor. They recently had a group buy on DSMtalk.com and had such huge interest in it they extended the GB price to anyone and everyone. $400 shipped for slotted/drilled rotors and Axxis Metal Master pads all around. I will be getting SS brake lines also. I'm not skimping on the important stuff, the puzzle isn't complete if there are pieces missing. I may buy EBC Red pads for the track, just swap them out for track use and keep the Metal Masters in for daily stuff.

**Kracka** · 03-06-2004

That $400 is a decent price for pads and rotors, but you still need to add $109 for SS lines. Doesn't your car still have the single pistons brakes though?

**Kracka** · 03-06-2004

I recomend Porterfields over the EBC pads, seems that people have much better luck with them. For track duty I recomend the R4E's and for street the R4S's.

Matt D. · 03-06-2004

No, I swapped Mike for his big calipers and found some small ones to give him in return.

That's good to know about the pads... Better is always good. I'll try out the Metal Masters for the street and initial track use and go from there. Who carries Porterfield pads?

**Kracka** · 03-06-2004

RRE and Archer.

FORSFED · 03-06-2004

I know there are a lot of kits to upgrade your front brakes from the single piston calipers and small rotors to the dual piston caliper and larger rotors, but can anything be done for the rear brakes? I remember reading something about the e-brake setup being different on the back therfore making it difficult to upgrade them. Any insight on this?

**Kracka** · 03-06-2004

No need to do too much to the rears. Nice rotors and pads are all you need.

FORSFED · 03-06-2004

That's kind of what I was thinking since most of your braking power comes from up front. Good pads and rotors with stainless lines as well would probably be the ticket.

Hey Chris, check your PM's about the baer brakes.

**Kracka** · 03-06-2004

PM's replied to. For some reason I never got the pop-up saying that I had a new PM.

Matt D. · 03-06-2004

Are there any proportion valve modifications that can be done? I heard/read somewhere that the front to rear braking ratio is 65/35 or something like that. Adjusting more to the rear would greatly help loosen the car up when braking into turns.

**Kracka** · 03-07-2004

You can use the larger 1" brake master cylinder from the big-brake 1G's as compared to the 7/8" from the small-brake 1G's.

Matt D. · 03-07-2004

I have a '93... Didn't it come with the big brakes?

**Kracka** · 03-07-2004

Yup, so you have the 1".