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Shane@DBPerformance 09-09-2009 09:25 PM

Got Fuel?
 
http://awddyno.com/prod1/InjectorDynamics2200cc.JPG

Just got a set of these in with Mitsubishi adapters on them for DSMs, Evo 8 and Evo 9. 2200cc at a 43.5 base fuel pressure and they are capable of being run at extremely high fuel pressures, unlike most fuel injectors.

The 1000cc version of these injectors tune, idle, and respond like a factory stock injector. We have tuned a bunch of S2000s, Acura RSX's, and turbo B-Series cars on the 1000s and they usually run amazing. The 2200s should hopefully kill the 1600s out there in idle quality and drivability. The main problem with the 1600s is not that they are too big, it's that they are just a poor injector and do not have linear enough flow, a pulse width of 1.5ms can actually give less fuel than 1.25ms. That can cause problems and force you to have to run the car richer at idle and part throttle with the 1600s to get any drivability.

I am trying these tomorrow on an Evo 9 with an AEM EMS on it. Even with an aftermarket peak & hold injector driver box, the AEM EMS can't handle the 1600s very well, so this should be a good test.

Super Bleeder!! 09-09-2009 09:33 PM

Re: Got Fuel?
 
are these the Injector Dynamics units that T1 sells?

1QUICK4 09-09-2009 09:41 PM

Re: Got Fuel?
 
Sick!

TkrPerformance 09-09-2009 09:42 PM

Re: Got Fuel?
 
they look really nice how will would they work on link

Shane@DBPerformance 09-09-2009 09:43 PM

Re: Got Fuel?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Bleeder!! (Post 304485)
are these the Injector Dynamics units that T1 sells?

Yep. They are a step up from the big Siemens Deka injectors as far as tunability goes.

Shane@DBPerformance 09-09-2009 09:50 PM

Re: Got Fuel?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TkrPerformance (Post 304487)
they look really nice how will would they work on link

They should work great, since the OEM Mitsu ECU injector drivers can handle the 1600s and 1650s better than most ECUs. The 1600s/1650 aren't perfect with the factory ECU/DSMLink, but at least the car usually drive decent.

They are very expensive, but they avoid having to goto a 2 fuel rail setup, different intake manifold, and 8 injectors on a lot of cars(1000s or smaller primaries for idle/drivability with 1600 secondaries coming on under boost), or if you actually need more than 1600 of flow.

Super Bleeder!! 09-09-2009 09:56 PM

Re: Got Fuel?
 
Very expensive is right! Sheesh!

goodhart 09-09-2009 10:07 PM

Re: Got Fuel?
 
How much?

TkrPerformance 09-09-2009 10:14 PM

Re: Got Fuel?
 
around 240.00 each

might have to save to get a set for the spyder when I start working on it some day. but whats a few more years since it has been apart for almost 8 years now

goodhart 09-09-2009 10:31 PM

Re: Got Fuel?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TkrPerformance (Post 304496)
around 240.00 each

:shocked:

Goat Blower 09-10-2009 09:20 AM

Re: Got Fuel?
 
That's a bargain when you figure in how much it takes to have two rails, eight injectors, and the corresponding fuel lines to do it. Plus you could run these with Link, doing eight injectors with Link takes some measures I wouldn't be comfortable with. At least before the new version came out.

Shane@DBPerformance 09-10-2009 03:20 PM

Re: Got Fuel?
 
Well, they seem to work very well. No problems controlling the A/Fs at idle or cruise, runs/smooth fine at 1.0 lambda cruising part throttle. They respond like a normal injector, tune like a PTE/FIC 1200-1250.

scheides 09-10-2009 03:25 PM

Re: Got Fuel?
 
Wow! What local evo9 needs these? I wanna see the dyno chart ;)

goodhart 09-10-2009 03:28 PM

Re: Got Fuel?
 
^^ I'm guessing maybe that white one that sat in their shop forever.

viridionplague 09-10-2009 03:31 PM

Re: Got Fuel?
 
better off buying these vs buying 2 sets of injectors at the same price, then avoid buying the extra rail, extra lines, and extra tuning required to run so much stuff

Shane@DBPerformance 09-10-2009 04:05 PM

Re: Got Fuel?
 
Just some E85 street car Evo 9 MR.

Shane@DBPerformance 09-10-2009 04:06 PM

Re: Got Fuel?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 304668)
^^ I'm guessing maybe that white one that sat in their shop forever.

That was an Evo 8 from a couple years ago.

Super Bleeder!! 09-10-2009 04:12 PM

Re: Got Fuel?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ecoli (Post 304677)
Just some E85 street car Evo 9 MR.


that makes RIDICULOUS power

Halon 09-10-2009 04:13 PM

Re: Got Fuel?
 
That's a lot of money. I wish there was a proven 1600 size injector that would tune like a smaller injector and take care of the "drivability" issues that most 1600's tend to cause.

scheides 09-10-2009 04:17 PM

Re: Got Fuel?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ecoli (Post 304677)
Just some E85 street car Evo 9 MR.

stfu and post the graphs punk!


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