Whatsup From Slowboy??!!!

[MATCHBX]

Originally Posted by SBR INC

It happened in my brothers house - my GM Jay Copenhaver and former employee Jon Nye were there when it happened. I do not care WHO YOU ARE - you do not hit a woman - under any circumstance - PERIOD.

His entire basement was trashed, holes in the wall, bottles broken in the wall, blood everywhere (not his). You have to be freaking kidding me - and I screwed Brent to huh? He screwed himself.

As for the rest of your email - I am only on through X games for Rally - we may do a rally in Jamaica in late August and another in December.

STPR kicked our but last year - first stage

Mike Huml
SBR Inc.

Like I said, according to the article there was no proof. Only that a complaint was filed. No outcome.

I agree that there is no need to hit a woman. I do not condone it nor would I ever do it. I can see how it can escalate to that though, even with a very mild mannered person (not saying Brent is or isn't). None of us were there to see it so it is your word against everyone else's. I am not getting in the middle of it saying it was his or someone else's fault. Just pointing out that what was posted was not concrete evidence of a crime.

Why are you only doing up until X games? You are missing out on some of the best roads in the US for rally. LSPR (Lake Superior Rally) and Ojibwe are some of the best run events around.

As for the rest of moy post, you didn't address it, but that's ok. I understand.

[SBR INC]

Originally Posted by MATCHBX

Like I said, according to the article there was no proof. Only that a complaint was filed. No outcome.

I agree that there is no need to hit a woman. I do not condone it nor would I ever do it. I can see how it can escalate to that though, even with a very mild mannered person (not saying Brent is or isn't). None of us were there to see it so it is your word against everyone else's. I am not getting in the middle of it saying it was his or someone else's fault. Just pointing out that what was posted was not concrete evidence of a crime.

Why are you only doing up until X games? You are missing out on some of the best roads in the US for rally. LSPR (Lake Superior Rally) and Ojibwe are some of the best run events around.

As for the rest of moy post, you didn't address it, but that's ok. I understand.

It does not need to be concrete evidence - fact is a woman was beat up and she did not press charges - only reason I even emtioned this is I get tired of hearing I fucked Brent Rau - it is just not true - end of story.

I was at LSPR last year - awesome in the UPPIE? We had a blast at the "Dog"..... but not sure we will make it this year.

Depending on how the money is that time of season depends on what we will do(We foot the entire rally bill - and since you will not buy from us we may not have the money to participate).

But - we will be in Jamaica for Rally Jamaica in December - I have two other customers running our motors their - and we had a blast last year.

Mike Huml
SBR Inc.

[MATCHBX]

Originally Posted by SBR INC

It does not need to be concrete evidence - fact is a woman was beat up and she did not press charges - only reason I even emtioned this is I get tired of hearing I fucked Brent Rau - it is just not true - end of story.

I was at LSPR last year - awesome in the UPPIE? We had a blast at the "Dog"..... but not sure we will make it this year.

Depending on how the money is that time of season depends on what we will do(We foot the entire rally bill - and since you will not buy from us we may not have the money to participate).

But - we will be in Jamaica for Rally Jamaica in December - I have two other customers running our motors their - and we had a blast last year.

Mike Huml
SBR Inc.

The 2 reasons I won't buy from you is the negative publicity and I just don't have a car to build up right now. I understand how tough it is to foot the bill for a rally season. It's a shame you aren't closer to MN, we are having a series of C1's for about $150-200 each. The first one is this weekend and you get 40 stage miles and about 17 miles of transit. No hotel or anything. But you are too far away.

If the reviews start coming in steadily that you guys have truly turned around and started working well with your customers, I may start buying from you. But I would rather deal with someone that has a good reputation in the business rather than a shaky one at best.

As far as women getting beat up, I met my now ex-girlfriend right after she got out of an abusive relationship. She was put into the hospital on the last time and pressed charges. If there were no charges pressed, there must be a reason why. While I agree no man should hit a woman, obviously he didn't just sit there and then out of the blue start wailing on her. There must have been something leading up to it.

[A//// Guy]

I agree, the way you word things represents your company. If you signed up as Joe shmoe and had no SBR affiliation no one would care how you worded things. But since you are affiliated, I would think for your best interests, you guys would deal with the bashing differently instead of bashing back. Speaking your mind could hurt you hardcore in business.

[AJ]

Tauni has been owned! And it wasn't even by another chick.

http://dsmstyle.com/forums/forumdisp...c&daysprune=-1

[A//// Guy]

^^ Nail on head was hit.

[A//// Guy]

You just dont seem to get it, maybe tell Mike to come read this page.

[SBR Joe]

Originally Posted by M/// Guy

You just dont seem to get it, maybe tell Mike to come read this page.

Ok then....why dont you tell me everything that I should do right that im doing wrong. Please, im always up for constructive criticism.



Joe
SBR

[polishmafia]

got any specials on bird shit cleaner?

[SBR Joe]

Originally Posted by polishmafia

got any specials on bird shit cleaner?

AHHHAHAHA.....your SOL.... no pun intended.


Joe
SBR

[SBR Jason]

Originally Posted by polishmafia

got any specials on bird shit cleaner?

Looks like big bird took a crap on your car

[SBR INC]

Originally Posted by M/// Guy

You just dont seem to get it, maybe tell Mike to come read this page.

Feel free to call me - would like to here from someone first hand how they would handle this - and you seem to have a pretty level head.

Mike Huml
SBR Inc.

[A//// Guy]

Originally Posted by SBR INC

Feel free to call me - would like to here from someone first hand how they would handle this - and you seem to have a pretty level head.

Mike Huml
SBR Inc.

I would but I dont think text or phone really matters, either way it doesnt seem to get through. Many people have already told you the cocky one way attitude probably isnt going to get many positive replies from people that have already had trouble dealing with you in the past. You need to somehow fix the attitude that some of your employees seem to have.

They should really care about issues from the past because if they are never fixed they will be brought up again and again. Angry customers go a long way to keep others from going through the same headache. Sure you probably have tons of happy customers but you should be striving toward maintaining a level of unhappy customers that reach the level 0 or close to it... I somehow don't see that right now.

I found this interesting, and Id like your take on how you think too many variables to give any refund is even acceptable from a shop, when the problem was obviously their fault? You might want to follow PSI's attitude toward going one step further for customers if you want your name to raise up from the ground weve pounded it into...
http://www.geocities.com/ftrkeaka/sbrpsi.htm

[SBR Jason]

Originally Posted by M/// Guy

I found this interesting, and Id like your take on how you think too many variables to give any refund is even acceptable from a shop, when the problem was obviously their fault? You might want to follow PSI's attitude toward going one step further for customers if you want your name to raise up from the ground weve pounded it into...
http://www.geocities.com/ftrkeaka/sbrpsi.htm

circa:2004

[A//// Guy]

Originally Posted by SBR Jason

circa:2004

You win the prize.. you can read. I figured Id get some smart ass reply.

[CVD]

For SBR in general, it's obvious you didn't show up here to be social, but rather as a vendor in order to reach potential customers. Given your conduct in this thread, JUSTIFIED OR NOT, I think that chance has come and gone.

At this point it seems you are here just for the sake of arguing/clearing your name, which is simply not going to happen in the eyes of this community so long as you continue to act as if previous mistakes by your business are not your fault for whatever reason.

Chris

- I would say 'welcome' but that's clearly not the purpose of my post.

[SBR Joe]

Originally Posted by CVD

For SBR in general, it's obvious you didn't show up here to be social, but rather as a vendor in order to reach potential customers. Given your conduct in this thread, JUSTIFIED OR NOT, I think that chance has come and gone.

At this point it seems you are here just for the sake of arguing/clearing your name, which is simply not going to happen in the eyes of this community so long as you continue to act as if previous mistakes by your business are not your fault for whatever reason.

Chris

- I would say 'welcome' but that's clearly not the purpose of my post.

Its because of people like you that we cant be social because we get bashed liek no other. Sorry. But im pretty sure our intent for this website was to maybe attract more customers and do what is in our power, right now to make people happy. I cant change anyones views though....like i had previously stated.


Joe
SBR

[SBR INC]

Originally Posted by CVD

For SBR in general, it's obvious you didn't show up here to be social, but rather as a vendor in order to reach potential customers. Given your conduct in this thread, JUSTIFIED OR NOT, I think that chance has come and gone.

At this point it seems you are here just for the sake of arguing/clearing your name, which is simply not going to happen in the eyes of this community so long as you continue to act as if previous mistakes by your business are not your fault for whatever reason.

Chris

- I would say 'welcome' but that's clearly not the purpose of my post.

No - we are here becuase we "thought" it was a great little forum, when Jason introduced himself we were attacked.

I would like to know how you would handle it personally, I mean really.

P.S. - everyone makes mistakes - we are not perfect - only one person was and he is not with us anymore

Mike Huml
SBR Inc.

[JET]

Originally Posted by SBR INC

No - we are here becuase we "thought" it was a great little forum, when Jason introduced himself we were attacked.

I would like to know how you would handle it personally, I mean really.

P.S. - everyone makes mistakes - we are not perfect - only one person was and he is not with us anymore

Mike Huml
SBR Inc.

So you be a man and say "sorry, I know we had problems in the past. It was my responsibility as the owner to monitor my employees and I didn't do that enough. We have been taking serious strives to fix this problem and have gotten rid of several employees and added new ones who are working out much better."

That is how a real business person does it. You cannot erase the past, you just have to deal with it the best you can. Even if it was Craigr's fault, he was still representing your company, therefore it all comes back to you. Quit playing the blame game and take responsibility for your company.

[SBR INC]

Originally Posted by JET

So you be a man and say "sorry, I know we had problems in the past. It was my responsibility as the owner to monitor my employees and I didn't do that enough. We have been taking serious strives to fix this problem and have gotten rid of several employees and added new ones who are working out much better."

That is how a real business person does it. You cannot erase the past, you just have to deal with it the best you can. Even if it was Craigr's fault, he was still representing your company, therefore it all comes back to you. Quit playing the blame game and take responsibility for your company.

Not to bad until the last sentance.

I understand no one makes mistakes -

I am not a sugar coater sir - never have been - never will be. If people cannot call me to discuss things - I cannot help them. I am not going to sit here and tell you how sorry I am and beg for your business - I am not that person.

Do you run a company?

Mike Huml
SBR Inc.