04-05-2007
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#501
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: MN
Drives: four tires
Posts: 1,608
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
All I was thinking of while looking at those pics was, damn, there is going to be some serious drivetrain carnage this year. The good thing about that is, that means your going faster down the 1/4 mile(or whereever you may be  ).
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04-05-2007
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#502
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Unsure resident asshole
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: MN
Drives: '92 Eagle TalonTSI w/many mods
Posts: 3,696
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
I likey.
-A. Swift
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744AWHP/526TQ-Shootout mode
639.6AWHP/452TQ-DB's dyno
I wanna go fast.
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04-05-2007
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#503
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Boulder, CO
Drives: Conquest
Posts: 5,049
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
Widebody kit.
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04-05-2007
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#504
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3.1L v6 power...
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
Them some big tires. I 2nd the widebody kit. But how would it look on a 3/s? I mean I've seen a 2g with a widebody kit on it. Looked pretty sweet.
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Josh LaCroix
At LSE Performance: 92 Talon TSi AWD
Driving a: 93 Ford Festiva L 5spd
Last edited by EVOMR05; 04-05-2007 at 12:44 PM..
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04-05-2007
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#505
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aka Goodbye
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
Widebody kit adds weight and rice appeal. Keep it as it is.
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2009 Corvette Z51-SOLD
1992 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX-SOLD
2013 BMW Z4-Current summer hooptie
2017 GMC Yukon-Current winter hooptie
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04-05-2007
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#506
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Is funding Exxon.
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Ham Lake
Drives: like a bat outta hell!
Posts: 7,983
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
Wow, is the front side of the tranny still flat after all that welding? Lookin' good! I am curious to see how long the Mickey Thompson's last for ya, I was looking at those.
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Is burning corn and stayin' warm!
My motorcycle is stock and reliable, my Talon is neither!
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04-05-2007
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#507
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Boulder, CO
Drives: Conquest
Posts: 5,049
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
if not widebody, get some overfenders like this:
Or just leave it. 
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04-05-2007
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#508
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back in the saddle again
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
There are some fenders out there, I might widebody it this winter if I want to dump that $$ into it, or if I actually care. The agressive stance is nice.
The trans is 100% perfectly flat.
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My street car runs low 11's and my race car's personal best is a mid 11....
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04-05-2007
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#509
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Asshat King
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Decorah / Ames, Iowa
Posts: 3,683
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
Quote:
Originally Posted by niterydr
Well I promised some updates...here are some teaser pics.

Had to reinforce the bellhousing and transmission in general.
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*Zero 3S knowledge.*
What kind of behavior do the 3S housings like to exhibit when they fail? Do you know of anyone that has a CAD model of them?
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04-05-2007
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#510
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Unsure resident asshole
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: MN
Drives: '92 Eagle TalonTSI w/many mods
Posts: 3,696
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
Wow! Jakey didn't ask for a close up of the welds!
-A. Swift
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Black 1GB Mafia #1
744AWHP/526TQ-Shootout mode
639.6AWHP/452TQ-DB's dyno
I wanna go fast.
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04-05-2007
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#511
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Is funding Exxon.
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Ham Lake
Drives: like a bat outta hell!
Posts: 7,983
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
Crap, the world is coming to an end!!
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Is burning corn and stayin' warm!
My motorcycle is stock and reliable, my Talon is neither!
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04-06-2007
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#512
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15min late to the world
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
When I welded it I tried to only do about 1-2" welds at a few different spots and checked with a heat gun and it stayed around 2xx deg the hole time.
~John
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04-06-2007
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#513
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back in the saddle again
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakey
*Zero 3S knowledge.*
What kind of behavior do the 3S housings like to exhibit when they fail? Do you know of anyone that has a CAD model of them?
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No one has modeled one, I don't have time to do it as of yet.
Pretty much since they are a helical cut gear, the input shaft tends to push out the bellhousing in an attempt to eat the clutch. It happens on the 6speed models somewhat often on high hp cars w/hook.
The 5speed models it is yet to occur, but I am tired of being the "first" to break shit...not the goal this season.
The theory is that the plate strengthens the "inside floor" of the bellhousing. This keeps the drive gears from seperating, and does not give them the opportunity to start to fatigue the bellhousing.
The method works great for some of the high hp 6speed guys that USE to break cases.
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My street car runs low 11's and my race car's personal best is a mid 11....
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04-06-2007
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#514
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Asshat King
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Decorah / Ames, Iowa
Posts: 3,683
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swifty1638
Wow! Jakey didn't ask for a close up of the welds!
-A. Swift
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JET
Crap, the world is coming to an end!!
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It's not something I'd be interesting in buying so it's irrelevant to me.
Quote:
Originally Posted by niterydr
No one has modeled one, I don't have time to do it as of yet..
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If I were you, I'd get a 100% stock housing and send it off to Advanced Design Concepts to get a CAD model made. It is nearly impossible to 100% reverse engineer a piece like this without some sort of laser scan or touch probe because of all the fine details. By having a CAD model, you could have someone run an FEA simulation on the piece to determine where the stress concentrations are and then be able to specifically target your reinforcements.
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'92 Laser RS AWD & '01 Grand Prix GTP
Proud to be a Cyclone
Check it out: Racers Against Street Racing
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04-06-2007
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#515
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back in the saddle again
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakey
It's not something I'd be interesting in buying so it's irrelevant to me.
If I were you, I'd get a 100% stock housing and send it off to Advanced Design Concepts to get a CAD model made. It is nearly impossible to 100% reverse engineer a piece like this without some sort of laser scan or touch probe because of all the fine details. By having a CAD model, you could have someone run an FEA simulation on the piece to determine where the stress concentrations are and then be able to specifically target your reinforcements.
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True this is much easier.
However we did manage to reverse engineer a transfer case with a similar vague description of what happens with 100% success.
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My street car runs low 11's and my race car's personal best is a mid 11....
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04-06-2007
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#516
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aka Goodbye
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakey
If I were you, I'd get a 100% stock housing and send it off to Advanced Design Concepts to get a CAD model made. It is nearly impossible to 100% reverse engineer a piece like this without some sort of laser scan or touch probe because of all the fine details. By having a CAD model, you could have someone run an FEA simulation on the piece to determine where the stress concentrations are and then be able to specifically target your reinforcements.
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Or you could just weld reinforcements and call it good. Some of y'all over complicate this stuff.
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2009 Corvette Z51-SOLD
1992 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX-SOLD
2013 BMW Z4-Current summer hooptie
2017 GMC Yukon-Current winter hooptie
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04-06-2007
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#517
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15min late to the world
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
Engineering problems for solutions is so much fun though.
~John
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Moon taxi: 9.45@156.9 mph 41psi 2011... Letting people down sense 2012.
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04-06-2007
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#518
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Boulder, CO
Drives: Conquest
Posts: 5,049
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
I think you have that backward. 
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04-06-2007
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#519
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I hate everyone
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Blaine
Posts: 938
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
That's what you think my friend
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04-06-2007
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#520
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars
Will the transmission be built for the upcoming season, or stock?
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