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Old 04-05-2007   #501
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars

All I was thinking of while looking at those pics was, damn, there is going to be some serious drivetrain carnage this year. The good thing about that is, that means your going faster down the 1/4 mile(or whereever you may be ).
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Old 04-05-2007   #502
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I likey.

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Widebody kit.
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Old 04-05-2007   #504
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars

Them some big tires. I 2nd the widebody kit. But how would it look on a 3/s? I mean I've seen a 2g with a widebody kit on it. Looked pretty sweet.
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Widebody kit adds weight and rice appeal. Keep it as it is.
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars

Wow, is the front side of the tranny still flat after all that welding? Lookin' good! I am curious to see how long the Mickey Thompson's last for ya, I was looking at those.
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars

if not widebody, get some overfenders like this:


Or just leave it.
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Re: Finally getting stuff done on our cars

There are some fenders out there, I might widebody it this winter if I want to dump that $$ into it, or if I actually care. The agressive stance is nice.

The trans is 100% perfectly flat.
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Well I promised some updates...here are some teaser pics.


Had to reinforce the bellhousing and transmission in general.
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What kind of behavior do the 3S housings like to exhibit when they fail? Do you know of anyone that has a CAD model of them?
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Wow! Jakey didn't ask for a close up of the welds!

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Crap, the world is coming to an end!!
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When I welded it I tried to only do about 1-2" welds at a few different spots and checked with a heat gun and it stayed around 2xx deg the hole time.

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What kind of behavior do the 3S housings like to exhibit when they fail? Do you know of anyone that has a CAD model of them?
No one has modeled one, I don't have time to do it as of yet.

Pretty much since they are a helical cut gear, the input shaft tends to push out the bellhousing in an attempt to eat the clutch. It happens on the 6speed models somewhat often on high hp cars w/hook.
The 5speed models it is yet to occur, but I am tired of being the "first" to break shit...not the goal this season.

The theory is that the plate strengthens the "inside floor" of the bellhousing. This keeps the drive gears from seperating, and does not give them the opportunity to start to fatigue the bellhousing.

The method works great for some of the high hp 6speed guys that USE to break cases.
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No one has modeled one, I don't have time to do it as of yet..
If I were you, I'd get a 100% stock housing and send it off to Advanced Design Concepts to get a CAD model made. It is nearly impossible to 100% reverse engineer a piece like this without some sort of laser scan or touch probe because of all the fine details. By having a CAD model, you could have someone run an FEA simulation on the piece to determine where the stress concentrations are and then be able to specifically target your reinforcements.
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It's not something I'd be interesting in buying so it's irrelevant to me.


If I were you, I'd get a 100% stock housing and send it off to Advanced Design Concepts to get a CAD model made. It is nearly impossible to 100% reverse engineer a piece like this without some sort of laser scan or touch probe because of all the fine details. By having a CAD model, you could have someone run an FEA simulation on the piece to determine where the stress concentrations are and then be able to specifically target your reinforcements.
True this is much easier.

However we did manage to reverse engineer a transfer case with a similar vague description of what happens with 100% success.
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If I were you, I'd get a 100% stock housing and send it off to Advanced Design Concepts to get a CAD model made. It is nearly impossible to 100% reverse engineer a piece like this without some sort of laser scan or touch probe because of all the fine details. By having a CAD model, you could have someone run an FEA simulation on the piece to determine where the stress concentrations are and then be able to specifically target your reinforcements.
Or you could just weld reinforcements and call it good. Some of y'all over complicate this stuff.
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Engineering problems for solutions is so much fun though.

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I think you have that backward.
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That's what you think my friend
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