11-18-2010
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*Resting In Peace*
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by cmspaz
it said 'fuck you' and blew off at the turbo?
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You got it! Shane had to handle that one. 
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11-17-2010
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N17r0U$ br4D
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Congrats on having a solid tune on it and getting nice numbers out of it!
Was the tune you rolled in on Ron's tune?
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11-17-2010
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*Resting In Peace*
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by C3L1CA
Was the tune you rolled in on Ron's tune?
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Nope, every time Shane went to tune the car we had fueling problems. He made the AFRs safe and that's what I've been hobbling around on for the last 4-5 months.
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11-17-2010
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Nice, but why would you even try the 1000s?
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11-17-2010
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*Resting In Peace*
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
Nice, but why would you even try the 1000s?
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For quite some time your choices in X injectors were 1000 and 2200 with nothing in-between. As you know, I tried the ID2000s but they never ran perfectly. Now you can get the DW1300s and the FIC Bluemax but the FIC require pigtails.
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Originally Posted by scheides
This is on snow tires too right? Goddamn great great numbers at only 30psi! Wonder what this thing would do at 35psi or so.
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Yup, stock wheels with snows and E70. The change from 25 to 30 psi wasn't too impressive so I'm not sure that 35 would be worthwhile. Shane said he was running quite a bit of timing and didn't advise bumping the boost.
I have an Omni 4bar on the shelf but my next goal is to figure out the oil smoke-screen issue. It's enough power for me.
Last edited by mlomker; 11-17-2010 at 11:47 PM..
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11-18-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: Evo X upgrades
The Omni is a painless switch, LMK if you want help doing that.
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Originally Posted by mlomker
It's enough power for me.
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Check your sig for what to do next 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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11-17-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: Evo X upgrades
^1300's didn't exist for the X before a few months ago skippy
Finally! Congrats man! I want a ride. This is on snow tires too right? Goddamn great great numbers at only 30psi! Wonder what this thing would do at 35psi or so.... I bet on summer tires on e85 it would be a lot closer to the elusive 500; that would be pretty awesome!
Good work man, now enjoy it!
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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11-17-2010
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: Evo X upgrades
I see. Thanks for that explanation. This new car thing is a doozy.
Car looked good on teh highway, danger ranger couldn't keep it in sight for too long.
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11-18-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Hey do you have any graphs with boost plots? Would be cool to see those too if you don't mind 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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11-18-2010
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*Resting In Peace*
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by scheides
Hey do you have any graphs with boost plots?
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I do but I didn't want to post them. It's bad. The tubular, MX1s and ported everything had a negative impact on spool. I only had a 2psi drop at a stock redline but at 9k it was 5. I might have leaks. I dunno.

Last edited by mlomker; 11-18-2010 at 01:58 AM..
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11-18-2010
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Nice numbers!
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I agree with Kracka.
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11-18-2010
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Pewp Champion
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Has anyone tried a simple MBC on an X? Wonder if it'd help at all with the loss of psi. Or is the turbo just running out of breath up there?
Either way, still a killer setup with great numbers, congrats again!
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11-18-2010
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formerly ecoli
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by Halon
Has anyone tried a simple MBC on an X? Wonder if it'd help at all with the loss of psi. Or is the turbo just running out of breath up there?
Either way, still a killer setup with great numbers, congrats again!
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They drop boost much worse with an MBC. With an MBC in there it would probably be a straight taper from 30psi down to 20psi. He could maybe try to use an MBC in there with the BCS to try to have more duty cycle to play with liek Schiedes did, but there might not be much left in that turbo in the upper RPMs anyways.
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11-18-2010
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*Resting In Peace*
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
For now 
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Originally Posted by ecoli
there might not be much left in that turbo in the upper RPMs anyways.
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There have been a handful of all-out BBX builds while I was busy sorting the car. One guy is running 35psi and making more torque but I think the hp number is as high as its going to go.
The 044 on a BAP should be able to handle a Black, which is the only upgrade that I'd consider.
Last edited by mlomker; 11-18-2010 at 12:57 PM..
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11-18-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Don't be ashamed! 25psi @4000rpm is dandy for that turbo! Having ported *everything* like you have will make it hard for the turbo to hold boost up top--don't worry about it, but you definitely start to look close at 7500rpm and say, 'man if I just had an extra 2psi I'd have +20whp (or whatever)....this is why I did the hybrid mbc/bcs thing, we'll see if it pays off.
Again, sweet results from a great setup! With any luck I'll be in that ballpark down the road.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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11-18-2010
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Great work! Finally! I bet it feels good to finally have a proper tune! Congrats.
Don't worry about the drop in boost, mine tanks the same way...drops from 37-29psi for me, so your drop isn't so bad, lol.
I'd blame the spool on the tubular, but honestly I bet you made an extra 15+whp from it. Worth it if you ask me
Now time to stop spending money, paying off debt and enjoy the car...welcome to my world if you weren't here already 
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11-18-2010
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
Now time to stop spending money
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Not quite yet due to the oil burning. There also seems to be an exhaust leak at the turbo to downpipe connection, so yet another reason to have the turbo pulled. At least I can stop spending money on fueling.
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11-18-2010
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by mlomker
Not quite yet due to the oil burning. There also seems to be an exhaust leak at the turbo to downpipe connection, so yet another reason to have the turbo pulled. At least I can stop spending money on fueling.
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For now 
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11-18-2010
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: Evo X upgrades
I think boost is dropping so much just because the head flows so well and the motor is just gobbling it all up. The X's head flows great in stock form, when you port it with oversized valves I am sure in the upper RPMS it can ingest a shit load.
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11-18-2010
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Link to a guy running 35psi on a BBX? Did i really miss that one, or maybe I just forgot.
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