Sport Bike

**JET** · 02-19-2013

Wow, Miles that is the worst information I have ever seen. Go check out all the pro riders, where did they start? Small bikes. You learn to carry speed and more art of riding. If you start out on too big of a bike then you are scared of it and never really learn how to ride. You pussy foot through the corners and hammer it on the straights.

Even a newer 600 rocket is a very potent machine for a new rider, shit just happens too fast. The SV650 is really the best learner bike out there. Torquey V-twin, forgiving chassis but still enough grunt to keep you entertained for a couple of years. Most insurance companies don't classify them as a rocket either, so that can be a big difference.

I have a 1k and I agree that it is bigger than you need for the streets. I had more fun on my 750. The limits are just so high that you rarely get to explore them.

blackawdtsi · 02-19-2013

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Originally Posted by JET

Wow, Miles that is the worst information I have ever seen. Go check out all the pro riders, where did they start? Small bikes. You learn to carry speed and more art of riding. If you start out on too big of a bike then you are scared of it and never really learn how to ride. You pussy foot through the corners and hammer it on the straights.

Even a newer 600 rocket is a very potent machine for a new rider, shit just happens too fast. The SV650 is really the best learner bike out there. Torquey V-twin, forgiving chassis but still enough grunt to keep you entertained for a couple of years. Most insurance companies don't classify them as a rocket either, so that can be a big difference.

I have a 1k and I agree that it is bigger than you need for the streets. I had more fun on my 750. The limits are just so high that you rarely get to explore them.

Jet is right. I started out on a ZX14. I traded my drag car for it. I had tons of fun on it but never went past half throttle and never above 6k rpm. Even worse, I barely leaned taking turns.

I bumped down to an R6 and actually learned how to do ride decently.

Now I'm on an F4i and have learned how to take turns the way I want (good enough for the street, probably still really crappy on the track), how to brake, how to 2 up, etc.

Alpha D · 02-20-2013

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Originally Posted by blackawdtsi

Jet is right. I started out on a ZX14. I traded my drag car for it. I had tons of fun on it but never went past half throttle and never above 6k rpm. Even worse, I barely leaned taking turns.

I bumped down to an R6 and actually learned how to do ride decently.

Now I'm on an F4i and have learned how to take turns the way I want (good enough for the street, probably still really crappy on the track), how to brake, how to 2 up, etc.

Similiar to this bike? http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hn...626665699.html It appears to be a really good deal....few things need to be done and ill have to do some negotiating slash talking and investigating on that bike it self but i most like will contact him and go check it out.

What do you guys think about that one? The plastics i guess are in rough shape but im sure you can take them of and paint them? As long as they are not cracked....Again i dont mind doing minor repairs....but if i already have to replace fork seals ...chain and sprockets...tires, brakes and the likes id rather get a functional bike....Im sure one can perform most repairs with standard house hold garage tools.

Miles inspection list was really nice, learned some vocabulary and im sure with just a little bit more research i should be able to differentiate good from bad. I dont want to impulse buy, yet i dont want to miss the boat on good deals either.

I started looking into bike stands and all that...but i DONT WANT ANOTHER DSM...that only has 2 wheels lol!

x-pride · 02-20-2013

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Originally Posted by Alpha D

Similiar to this bike? http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hn...626665699.html It appears to be a really good deal....few things need to be done and ill have to do some negotiating slash talking and investigating on that bike it self but i most like will contact him and go check it out.

What do you guys think about that one? The plastics i guess are in rough shape but im sure you can take them of and paint them? As long as they are not cracked....Again i dont mind doing minor repairs....but if i already have to replace fork seals ...chain and sprockets...tires, brakes and the likes id rather get a functional bike....Im sure one can perform most repairs with standard house hold garage tools.

Miles inspection list was really nice, learned some vocabulary and im sure with just a little bit more research i should be able to differentiate good from bad. I dont want to impulse buy, yet i dont want to miss the boat on good deals either.

I started looking into bike stands and all that...but i DONT WANT ANOTHER DSM...that only has 2 wheels lol!

I would recommend to stay away from this bike. He rode the bike to Fargo and yet will not take the bike to a shop that is less than 15 miles from Elk River for a 15 dollar repair. His reason is no motorcycle endorsement. If the bike does not sell by March he is going to repair it and keep it. Yet he has not motorcycle endorsement. Might be more work than it is worth.

Takes Jet's advice on the SV650. The SV is a great canyon carver. It is not a fast bike and it is not a slow bike either. Spend 300 dollars on suspension and the bike handles very well. It is going to take you two years of riding to out grow the SV. Yet the bike will retain it value for your next upgrade. The SV get a lot of respect from most riders too.

Alpha D · 02-20-2013

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Originally Posted by JET

Wow, Miles that is the worst information I have ever seen. Go check out all the pro riders, where did they start? Small bikes. You learn to carry speed and more art of riding. If you start out on too big of a bike then you are scared of it and never really learn how to ride. You pussy foot through the corners and hammer it on the straights.

Even a newer 600 rocket is a very potent machine for a new rider, shit just happens too fast. The SV650 is really the best learner bike out there. Torquey V-twin, forgiving chassis but still enough grunt to keep you entertained for a couple of years. Most insurance companies don't classify them as a rocket either, so that can be a big difference.

I have a 1k and I agree that it is bigger than you need for the streets. I had more fun on my 750. The limits are just so high that you rarely get to explore them.

About what the insurance considers a bike (Rocket) brings up another one of my thoughts i had.... How do tickets affect Insurance rates...and what not? What sort of insurance would i even have to get as a starter? Does motor cycle insurance work under the same principle as a car ....(Full coverage/ Liability ect)...

I have a total of 5 tickets....

-2 equipment, which I guess dont add any points,
-One speeding ticket 2 years old....
-One car pool lane ticket 2 years old...
-Right turn on a red light 3 years old, should be dropping this may with progressive?

What would an average rate be? Given age and Record. Do you get discounts for purchasing certain safety equipment, I imagine taking a safety course might be of some sort of benefit? To my understanding its a voluntary choice....which i think is sort of backwards....seat belts are mandatory...yet helmets are not? I know ill be wearing a helmet no matter what!