06-08-2010
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Shit Rocket Pilot
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Shoreview, MN
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Re: Modern Automotive Performance
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Originally Posted by Swifty1638
True, but there's a PROFESSIONALISM that can go a LONG way when making posts regarding said issues. Talking like a tool out of your dirty asshole only reflects the quality of a man's character, and will be judged as such.
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rocket2g needs to read this a few times over.
I wasn't privy to his situation, and now that I'm informed I do not believe he will be around much longer.
As for my issue, it was a misunderstanding. Yay for special order parts.
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06-08-2010
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Cottage Grove, MN
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Re: Modern Automotive Performance
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Originally Posted by Matt D.
rocket2g needs to read this a few times over.
I wasn't privy to his situation, and now that I'm informed I do not believe he will be around much longer.
As for my issue, it was a misunderstanding. Yay for special order parts.
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Sorry for the confusion Matt, again if you ever have an issue just touch base with me and I'll get you squared away!
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06-08-2010
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Tournaments Won: 3
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Maple Grove, MN
Drives: Lancer and Durango
Posts: 7,017
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Re: Modern Automotive Performance
Im sure we all have had issues here and there. But from the sounds of it some of you really get pissed off, throw your hands up and say im going to talk shit about them on a forum. There is a way to deal with vendors and a way not to. Rocket2g is a prime example of letting emotions get in the way of a solution.
A lot of times especially with delays in parts getting in or problems with ordering the wrong parts, its not the shops fault. and so yelling is going to solve nothing, Patience and actually WORKING WITH the shop as opposed to AGAINST the shop will do nothing for you.
In my dealings with map over the past couple years, any issue i have had was handled very well by chris and his staff. All i had to do was ask. At times i even felt that I was asking for status too much, but everything got resolved and when chris found out it was going to be another couple months before i would get my pistons, i told him i found a good deal on some used ones, he issued a refund same day and everything went great from there.
Rocket2g, where you are mistaken coming on here and yelling and spouting off threats here and there that we are covering up for map is ridiculous, if MAP was screwing up on a daily or the majority opinion was that they were not a good vendor, they wouldnt BE a vendor. But the majority opinion is that they deal with their problems as long as you are cooperative. If you arent willing to work through your issues then its entirely your fault. And please do show up to the wednesday meets, it would be nice to see a boxing match and create some excitement.
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06-08-2010
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: stillwater
Drives: cbr 1000rr repsol
Posts: 1,451
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Re: Modern Automotive Performance
This is for v8killa. I would of taking a refund. But it would cost me more money to do a dam refund. Since I paid cash. So I would have to come to your shop to get my money back I would have to take time off work. That costs me money. Since I work 8 to 530 and my work is in stillwater. That leaves me no time to run out to you guys. You aren't open on a Saturday. Plus the gas I would have to use to drive out to your shop. Its 45 min one way. You guys say you can meet custmors at the shop on saturdays or sundays if needed. I called for some parts that I needed to purchase. But you said sorry we are open Monday thru Friday. I have tried a couple of times to arrange time on a Saturday to go out there and buy and order parts. But you didn't have the time tohelp me out. We talked on the phone about my oil line fuck up. And you said you help me out. But you failed. I tried 2 times for sure mabe 3. Oh don't have a credit card so I can't just order that shit off your site. Oh and on GOODHARTs tranny deal. If he was missing the dowel pins on the car for the tranny. Everytime he pushes the clutch in it would put a lot of pressure on the bolt closes to the slave clyinder. And it will snap after a little bit of driving. I know from the past. If he drove it to your shop and home with out that bolt snapping he's dowel pins had to be in there. And are sure you gave him the right tranny that was good. It could be easy for you guys to mess that up.
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06-08-2010
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Cottage Grove, MN
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Re: Modern Automotive Performance
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Originally Posted by 93gtpeater
This is for v8killa. I would of taking a refund. But it would cost me more money to do a dam refund. Since I paid cash. So I would have to come to your shop to get my money back I would have to take time off work. That costs me money. Since I work 8 to 530 and my work is in stillwater. That leaves me no time to run out to you guys. You aren't open on a Saturday. Plus the gas I would have to use to drive out to your shop. Its 45 min one way. You guys say you can meet custmors at the shop on saturdays or sundays if needed. I called for some parts that I needed to purchase. But you said sorry we are open Monday thru Friday. I have tried a couple of times to arrange time on a Saturday to go out there and buy and order parts. But you didn't have the time tohelp me out. We talked on the phone about my oil line fuck up. And you said you help me out. But you failed. I tried 2 times for sure mabe 3. Oh don't have a credit card so I can't just order that shit off your site. Oh and on GOODHARTs tranny deal. If he was missing the dowel pins on the car for the tranny. Everytime he pushes the clutch in it would put a lot of pressure on the bolt closes to the slave clyinder. And it will snap after a little bit of driving. I know from the past. If he drove it to your shop and home with out that bolt snapping he's dowel pins had to be in there. And are sure you gave him the right tranny that was good. It could be easy for you guys to mess that up.
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We could have sent you your refund via check to save you the trip. And yes, I'm sure he received the correct transmission.
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06-08-2010
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Tournaments Won: 3
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Maple Grove, MN
Drives: Lancer and Durango
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Re: Modern Automotive Performance
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Originally Posted by 93gtpeater
Oh and on GOODHARTs tranny deal. If he was missing the dowel pins on the car for the tranny. Everytime he pushes the clutch in it would put a lot of pressure on the bolt closes to the slave clyinder. And it will snap after a little bit of driving. I know from the past. If he drove it to your shop and home with out that bolt snapping he's dowel pins had to be in there. And are sure you gave him the right tranny that was good. It could be easy for you guys to mess that up.
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Missing dowel pins wont cause the bolts to snap, think about what they are there for. on my gst on a ACT 2900 clutch i didnt have the dowel pins in and it worked fine. When you are missing BOLTs, thats when engagement issues arise. But then you wont be able to actually put it in gear because when you push in the clutch it causes the tranny to seperate from the engine. (know from personal exp). The dowel pins do nothing but allow a point to line up the tranny, and extra strength from the tranny trying to rotate against the block.
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06-08-2010
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Tournaments Won: 3
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Maple Grove, MN
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Re: Modern Automotive Performance
Goodhart,
How did you check that only the front wheels where moving..... Because i was just out in my garage, currently my car has only the front wheels up in the air. and the car is in 1st gear, The front tires will rotate. Granted one wheel is going one direction and the other going the opposite direction. Which is normal for our cars. Im really hoping this wasnt the way you checked that only the front tires were rotating.
Did you put the car in the air on all four jackstands and put the car in gear while running? Did you put it on an AWD Dyno? Did you do a smokey burnout? Were you sure the Tcase wasnt messed up?
A little description of how you came to the conclusion that the tranny was messed would be helpful in this situation.
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06-08-2010
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: stillwater
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Re: Modern Automotive Performance
The tranny had every bolt that held it to the motor and everything else. It was missing a dowel pin. Cause when that was notice that it was missing one. A dowel pin was put in the right place everything was reinstalled and never broke a bolt after that. If the dowel pin are there for just alignment. Why would map say anything about the dowel pins not being in goodharts car. Just a question. How would that cause just the front tires to turn. Just saying.
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06-08-2010
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Tournaments Won: 3
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Maple Grove, MN
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Re: Modern Automotive Performance
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Originally Posted by 93gtpeater
The tranny had every bolt that held it to the motor and everything else. It was missing a dowel pin. Cause when that was notice that it was missing one. A dowel pin was put in the right place everything was reinstalled and never broke a bolt after that. If the dowel pin are there for just alignment. Why would map say anything about the dowel pins not being in goodharts car. Just a question. How would that cause just the front tires to turn. Just saying.
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How would a dowel pin cause a bolt to break? Thank about it.. A dowel pin has no head to it, therefore it does not keep the motor from separating from the tranny. It only stops it from rotating against the block. You could have had crappy bolts. Overtightened bolts. etc. there are a million reasons for breaking bolts, and believe me, a dowel pin is not one of them.
From what i gathered, they werent blaming the dowel pins for the wheels not rotating. That would just be stupid.
Anyone know where said tranny is now? Does goodhart still have this.
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06-08-2010
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Willmar, MN
Drives: 91GSX; 98 GSX; 92 Tsi AWD; Kawasaki ZR7
Posts: 319
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Re: Modern Automotive Performance
Basically they're saying that and the shifter was messed up, so other things probably were as well; that's how I took it anyways.
This goes for any of the issues stated in this thread, including the guy that got banned out of the deal: If the situation really was as he said, then I see nothing wrong with posting it here for everyone to see. If he was just being unreasonable, then he was the one in the wrong. It's as simple as that IMO, although we have no way of truly knowing what all went on.
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06-08-2010
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Crash Course Racing
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Skid Row
Drives: in circles
Posts: 2,623
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Re: Modern Automotive Performance
I haven't dealt with MAP in a while but they've always been good to me.
They did mess up once and had my MAFT drop shipped to my house before I paid for it. (only had deposit)
Luckily for them I'm a pretty honnest guy nowadays
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06-09-2010
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*Resting In Peace*
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Heaven
Drives: 94 Plymouth Acclaim/2008 EvoX
Posts: 2,430
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Re: Modern Automotive Performance
Roid rage? The irony is that I've done a cycle and I was nothing like that. haha.
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06-09-2010
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#13
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Circle Pines
Drives: 1992 talon tsi 1995 corolla
Posts: 2,048
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Re: Modern Automotive Performance
I've dealt with map a lot. I've only bought parts from them since I do all my own work but never had any real problems. the only problem I've ever had was when I ordered some k-sport coil overs they said i'd get them in a week but it took a little over a month. k-sport had some parts on back order so it was in no way maps fault. i'd do business with them again in the future if I ever get another sports car.
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06-09-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: Modern Automotive Performance
just swapped a few emails with Mwolf83, and he doesn't know who rocket2g is, no one really seems to. He came out of nowhere into this thread to post up his rant/fail, and now is gone and disappeared like dust in the wind. Oh well, carry on 
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I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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06-09-2010
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Tournaments Won: 3
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Maple Grove, MN
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Re: Modern Automotive Performance
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Originally Posted by scheides
just swapped a few emails with Mwolf83, and he doesn't know who rocket2g is, no one really seems to. He came out of nowhere into this thread to post up his rant/fail, and now is gone and disappeared like dust in the wind. Oh well, carry on 
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It sucks i wont be at the meet tonight. i would really like to know if the douche actually shows up.
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06-10-2010
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Cottage Grove, MN
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Re: Modern Automotive Performance
Thanks for keeping this thread alive guys 
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06-10-2010
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R U DTF bro?
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Oak Point, TX
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Re: Modern Automotive Performance
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Originally Posted by v8klla
Thanks for keeping this thread alive guys 
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This thread has gone far enough off-topic, I'm going to lock and clean.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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06-11-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: Modern Automotive Performance
Bump, the OP asked me to change the thumbs down to a thumbs up!
Also, rocket2g, who came out of nowhere with his rant, has disappeared and won't respond to my emails.
rocket2g, if you read this, check your email, man up, and write back 
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I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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