05-23-2011
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by scheides
FWIW if the initial torque doesn't fix it, replacing the crushwasher should still be the next step.
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Definitely. On Wed I'll tighten it and spend a few minutes cleaning.
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Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty
Why is the pump hanger thing able to move at all?
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Not sure what Mitsu's reasoning was there. The X tank and hanger design is different than previous Evos.
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05-23-2011
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Re: Evo X upgrades
so... did it fix it?
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05-23-2011
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by 311evo
so... did it fix it?
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Won't know until Proving Grounds, which is my next track day. There's no way to drive the car that hard on the street.
Last edited by mlomker; 05-23-2011 at 05:31 PM..
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05-23-2011
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flips McGee
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by mlomker
Won't know until Proving Grounds, which is my next track day. There's no way to drive the car that hard on the street.
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What about somewhere like 494/394 intersection where there's cloverleafs on all 4 corners? Go there late some night and keeeeep going right! Or wait, is the problem supposedly on hard left corners?
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I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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05-23-2011
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by scheides
Or wait, is the problem supposedly on hard left corners?
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The working theory is that the surge tank holds ~45 seconds of fuel and after 6+ minutes of the tank sloshing in all directions, the surge tank was able to be emptied. The car has been solid on the street for a while now.
WOT for 6min while braking and turning would be pretty darn tough anywhere else.
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Originally Posted by 311evo
I guess I'm spoiled with nice roads where I live.
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Have you ever done road course? Sign up, man. The more Evos the merrier.
If some of you guys aren't busy then you should come over to the short course and at least hitch a ride. It's some addictive shit and it's nothing like the street, imo.
Last edited by mlomker; 05-23-2011 at 06:50 PM..
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05-23-2011
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by mlomker
Have you ever done road course? Sign up, man. The more Evos the merrier.
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I've always wanted to, but I can't afford it at all. The amount of work I would have to take off, and to get everything totally "safe" for the track would already me too much. Then there's the price of actually going to an event too. lol
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05-23-2011
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by mlomker
Won't know until Proving Grounds, which is my next track day. There's no way to drive the car that hard on the street.
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I guess I'm spoiled with nice roads where I live. 
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05-23-2011
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Re: Evo X upgrades
I just hope you don't pay the money and time for a track day, and find out the issue is still there. Story of your car, right? :P
Good luck!
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05-23-2011
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Re: Evo X upgrades
My solution for all of the silly bolts on the SSP undertray.

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05-25-2011
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Fueling system died on the way to work and I barely got it into the office parking lot. The 044 in the trunk is making horrible death sounds. I'm going to have to do some parking-lot troubleshooting later today but it appears toast.
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05-25-2011
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Time to start using real brand name pumps rather than these modified/generic knock-offs?
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I agree with Kracka.
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05-25-2011
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by Kracka
Time to start using real brand name pumps rather than these modified/generic knock-offs?
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I had a Bosch-brand 044 first and it didn't flow enough--it'd immediately overheat if you tried to BAP it. There's a reason that the Weldon was waiting to go in.
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05-25-2011
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flips McGee
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Ugh that is horrible news dude. That was the jay racing 044 right? Do they by chance make a submersible version?
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I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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05-25-2011
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by scheides
That was the jay racing 044 right? Do they by chance make a submersible version?
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No, they have the PT342 which is what I'm running in the in-tank. It supposedly flows 340lph like the Aeromotive. I put my ear up to it and it's humming away in the tank. I'll verify flow from it before I swap my Bosch in tonight but it sounds happy.
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05-25-2011
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Re: Evo X upgrades
As is often the case, the problem was not AT ALL what I thought it was. It turns out that the Jay Racing PT342 is actually a rebadged Aeromotive 340. What's interesting about the Aeromotive? Reverse polarity! It don't pump so good when wired backward. It does make sounds like it is working, however. lol.
I drove all the way to work on the 1/2gal that was in my surge tank.
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05-25-2011
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by mlomker
As is often the case, the problem was not AT ALL what I thought it was. It turns out that the Jay Racing PT342 is actually a rebadged Aeromotive 340. What's interesting about the Aeromotive? Reverse polarity! It don't pump so good when wired backward. It does make sounds like it is working, however. lol.
I drove all the way to work on the 1/2gal that was in my surge tank.
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Ah WTF!
Gonna be doing some wiring tonight then? lol
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05-25-2011
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by goodhart
Gonna be doing some wiring tonight then? lol
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No real harm done since I didn't need a tow, so I'm laughing! lol.
I pulled the hanger and brought it home. I figure I'll go into work early tomorrow and drop the re-wired hanger back in the Evo. My boss was kind enough to give me a ride home to grab the beater.
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05-25-2011
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by mlomker
I drove all the way to work on the 1/2gal that was in my surge tank.
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Wouldn't most of the fuel from the surge tank just pass by the rail and go back into the primary tank via the return line? It seems like it would only take a minute for the external pump to go through the surge tank if the in tank pump wasn't doing anything to fill it.
Come to think of it, my 255 filled a gallon container in about a minute. Under throttle, most (if not all) of that is going to be used, but just cruising maybe 1/20th will be used, which means most of the gas just comes back through the return.
Is your surge tank 1/2 gallon? If so, it would only take about 30 seconds of your in-tank pump not flowing anything to run the surge tank dry, just because the external pump is always going to be flowing a lot, regardless if the motor uses it.
Or am I just high and not thinking clearly? Or maybe you have a return into the surge tank?
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05-25-2011
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by asshanson
Or maybe you have a return into the surge tank?
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Correct, the engine return goes to the surge tank. Overflow from the surge tank returns to the main tank.
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05-25-2011
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Oh nice, didn't even think of that until after I wrote the post.
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