Winter preparation...

Enes · 10-11-2005

Give your suggestions for winter preparations.

what do you do to assure your car gets throu winter fine while it is in storage.

1. put it on jack stands just enough so that full weight is not on shocks.
2. make sure i have good coolant in it.
3. drain oil.
4. remove batery and put it in the house
5. remove radio face plate that is lcd

Reason i leave coolant in it is so that it doesn't dry up and leave residue on water pump/radiator. While its wet it keeps all the minerals/residue in liquid form.
Coolant system is fully seald so it should be still there when you go to drain it.

Reason i drain oil is because it breaks down over time and it can clog and leave sludge in the botom of the oil pan.

batery/faceplate is due to cold. i don't want the batery to go dead and lcd to break due to cold.

-E

**Kracka** · 10-11-2005

Draining your engine oil leaving the crankcase empty is a bad idea. Today's conventional oils are fine for 6 months or more, synthetics are good for a year or more. It is best to have fresh oil in for storage, and then to drain it and replace with fresh oil again after the initial start-up for the spring.

Onefast99gsx · 10-11-2005

I understand everything on your list except for the draining the oil part. I understand your reasoning however I don't think it's good to not having anything in their period. Metals that are subject to oils at all times are resistant to rust but when they become dry they can surface rust. Get some warm-cold-warm-cold days throughout the winter and there you have moisture to ad to the rustation process. Personally, i'd leave it in and then come spring just before you're gonna drive it, then drain it and change maybe even run a can of Motor-flush through it at the same time.

My .02 worth.

**Kracka** · 10-11-2005

If you aren't able to put your car on jackstands, inflating the tires to 40-45psi is fine to help prevent flat-spotting. Also, I like to stuff rags in my exhast tip(s) and put a plastic bag over my air filter.

Enes · 10-11-2005

You guys know that oil doesn't touch much of the rotating items if its sitting there crank is above the oil level maybe 2 or none of the lobes are touching oil thats it. everything else only has whatever residue is on it when you shut off the car and after its drained.

-E

**Kracka** · 10-11-2005

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Originally Posted by Enes

You guys know that oil doesn't touch much of the rotating items if its sitting there crank is above the oil level maybe 2 or none of the lobes are touching oil thats it. everything else only has whatever residue is on it when you shut off the car and after its drained.

-E

Gee, I wasn't aware of how an engine or engine oil works...come on Enes!

Onefast99gsx · 10-11-2005

Put about 2+ galls or so of oil in, the 'ol lobes will be touching then.

J/kidding. Putting something over the tail pipe was a good idea. Anywhere mice can get into is where you want to block off. Vents, etc..

A//// Guy · 10-11-2005

Your pan could develop surface rust as well... I would leave oil in it, and any residue that does build up will just mix up and fluch out with the next oil/filter change.

Enes · 10-11-2005

no diss to any old timers or current honda owners

Outlaw1 · 10-11-2005

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Originally Posted by Onefast99gsx

Personally, i'd leave it in and then come spring just before you're gonna drive it, then drain it and change maybe even run a can of Motor-flush through it at the same time.

My .02 worth.

I don't know if engine flushes have advanced much in the last ten years, last time I used this stuff it was about the same as pouring a quart of diesel in the crankcase. I wouldn't use any of that stuff.

**Kracka** · 10-11-2005

No residue will build up and no engine-flush is needed. Seriously people, this isn't dino-goo you're putting in your engines, its a wee bit more refined and formulated than that.

A//// Guy · 10-11-2005

Dont forget Stabil in your fuel tank.

**Kracka** · 10-11-2005

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Originally Posted by EclipseTurbo

Dont forget Stabil in your fuel tank.

To be honest, with today's additive packages in quality (BP for example) premium fuels the need for Stabil is questionable. It won't hurt, but at the same time its not necessary.

**scheides** · 10-13-2005

I say leave oil in it. Change it, but leave oil in it.

I used to store my old gti at my parent's place while I was at school. I went home at christmas to discover mice running around in it. Take some dryer sheets (downy or whatever is smelliest) and stick them in various openings around the engine compartment (i.e. around the strut towers, in the area where the battery was, etc) and then lay a single sheet on the base of each seat, and maybe a few on the floor (especially up near the floor vents) for good measure. They never came back, and my interior and engine bay were fully in tact when I checked it after that.

Note: if you over do this, you car will smell a little funny when you pull it out of storage. Detail w/ armoral or some such product & cruise w/ the windows down & this will go away promptly.

rk4g63 · 10-13-2005

Wouldn't it be simpler to just start the car every day and drive the car once a week around the block or something?

I know I'm from Indianapolis and have never spent a winter here in the Cities, but it doesnt get THAT much colder, does it?

**Kracka** · 10-13-2005

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Originally Posted by rk4g63

Wouldn't it be simpler to just start the car every day and drive the car once a week around the block or something?

I know I'm from Indianapolis and have never spent a winter here in the Cities, but it doesnt get THAT much colder, does it?

If you're putting the car down for storage, just leave it. Most of the wear takes place at initial start-up, its better to just let the car sit for the winter and start it come spring. When putting a car away, we're doing so to avoid taking the car out in the snow/salt which would be negated if he was to drive around the block every week.

rk4g63 · 10-13-2005

OK Got it. I actually am used to driving my dsm all the time and doing an underbody wash once a week, so this is a bit different for me.
Thanks!

Enes · 10-13-2005

we are talking pound and pound of salt per square foot, we are talking just as much sand, and then on top of that twenty below weather with windchill will get it down to fourty below.

and thats on a normal good day!

rk4g63 · 10-13-2005

Looks like I'd better put away my dsm for the winter.

Outlaw1 · 10-13-2005

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Originally Posted by Enes

we are talking pound and pound of salt per square foot, we are talking just as much sand, and then on top of that twenty below weather with windchill will get it down to fourty below.

and thats on a normal good day!

I can't wait!