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Originally Posted by niterydr
No I would say its more of the fact that both of us have seen 1/2 cocked projects and 1/4 built dsm's where owners have decided to try something different where a tired and trued method would have been so much easier for them, and in the end, cheaper.
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Yeah, but I blame some of that on the customer and the lack of knowledge that they have. I mean why would they take it to you if they know what they are doing? Why did you have to fix that MS system in the Probe? Really if the owner knew what they were doing they should have been able to fix it themselves. IMO
I am in the landscape construction business. When people want something "different" in their landscape, it usually doesn't work (like you're cocked projects). Maybe by a slim chance but thats
if the owner takes care of it. However they never do, landscape dies and becomes shitty and lots of money was spent for nothing. They should have just sticked to hardier plants and tried and true easy care methods in the landscape.
I am sure you saw something like this in your shop and with peoples car projects. Also lots of stories to tell with this.
Unfortunately in this business, we never get the people who knows what they are doing with the impressive projects. (like to point to grass roots magazine $2007 comp with the corvette with the vacuum traction) Why? because the people who know what they are doing can do it themselves for a fraction of the cost and they enjoy doing it themselves. Do you take your cars to a shop? I know I do all of my own landscaping.
There is my landscape and customers rant...
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Originally Posted by niterydr
$800 for an ecu and wb 02 isn't bad, try tracking how many hours you have into this when you are done tuning versus just dropping in a dsmlink and calling it done. I've done similar projects, but perfer to work with projects where there are no other options.
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It is true I have put a lot of hours into assembly into this ECU. Would I have been able to drop in a DSMlink and get probably similar, maybe even better results? Much more quickly even?
Yes.
Would have I learned anything?
No. <--- which then I would have probably gotten board with the car project because of the ease of plug and play...
I like to learn, if I don't things become boring really fast and I would have to switch cars. Like lots of you have already done. How many people on here drive DSMs anymore?
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Originally Posted by niterydr
I just don't see the point of a MS on a dsm, but thats just me. The project is great and you will learn a lot. Plus, if anyone ever decides to do it again, then can look for you to advise and help if it is well documented.
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I am getting a lot of help from people who have already had success with the system. Plus there is already good documentation on how to get the system working. Like you have pointed out, people who have the system will just rave about it... even if there are better systems out there...
Very fun project!
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