08-18-2008
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Manic Narcissistic
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Re: Engine Clanking -WTF!!!
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Originally Posted by Halon
On a positive note, I drained all the oil. The oil has, well, 1 mile on it, and it appears to be pretty clean.
I'll slowly be getting the head off the car to see how it looks inside and see how bad the cylinder walls look. I'm going to go ahead and assume the head is shot. Any body have a single roller rocker they'd be willing to part with?
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I got a whole bag of em. and a lifter, and valve spring. I also have a head if you need it. Just let me know.
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08-18-2008
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Re: Engine Clanking -WTF!!!
Did something somehow get into your IC piping and through the manifold into the engine? I don't know if that could have caused that to happen to the spark plug, just a guess. Maybe dropped something when you were putting it all together today?
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08-18-2008
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#23
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Crash Course Racing
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: Engine Clanking -WTF!!!
You said you had just washed your car right?
Did you spray under hood? Could've hydro locked that cylinder but It would have happened right away possibly cracking a piston skirt.
Probably not what happened though as you would've noticed right away.
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08-18-2008
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
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Re: Engine Clanking -WTF!!!
Thanks for the concerns everyone.
To answer some questions. Andrew, I suppose it is always possibly that somehow, something was inside a pipe that I didn't know about. It wasn't all that complicated to put the TB on. 4 nuts. And None of them were missing. If something is in there, I suppose I'll see it tomorrow when I have the head off. Maybe I've been missing a 10mm socket and I don't even know it yet, and it'll show up in Cyl 1!
Brian, yes I had just gotten the car washed. It was the Holiday gas station's drive thru touchless wash. My hood does have a big hole/vent in it, so it's possible that some water could have gotten into the engine bay. But to hydrolock the motor, I'm thinking that woul dhave happened instantly right? I mean, I drove for maybe 2 minutes after getting out of the car wash, and the car was running just fine. THen all a sudden, out of blue while in 3rd gear going a whopping 45mph, the horrible sounds started.
Tomorrow will hopefully shed a little light on things.
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08-18-2008
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#25
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Re: Engine Clanking -WTF!!!
Ah didnt know it was just the TB you put on. Not likely then.
Sorry to hear man, hope the damage is minimal. I'll probably stop by tomorrow if you'll be home working on it before 9.
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08-19-2008
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Finally Tuned...
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Re: Engine Clanking -WTF!!!
Sorry man! Same type of thing happened to me on Sunday. Car overheated so i put coolant in and went to start with the radiator cap off and it looked like a fountain gushing out. This is by the way what happened to me on the way home from getting my car from a fresh head gasket job!! Turns out that the head is warped and this has been my problem for the last year with pushing coolant and going through 3 different kinds of head gaskets.
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08-19-2008
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formerly ecoli
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: On the dyno
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Re: Engine Clanking -WTF!!!
Use a straight edge to check the head when you do a head gasket. It doesn't take a lot to warp a DSM head from overheating.
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08-19-2008
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Shit Rocket Pilot
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Shoreview, MN
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Re: Engine Clanking -WTF!!!
Fucking cars... Brandon, let me know if you need help wrenching in the evening this week.
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08-19-2008
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#29
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Cottage Grove
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Re: Engine Clanking -WTF!!!
Damn, sorry to hear about that. It crazy how one minute a car will be perfectly fine and then BOOM, its like night and day. Hope you get it back up adn running in time for dyno day.
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08-19-2008
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: Engine Clanking -WTF!!!
sorry to hear b man let me know if u need something
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08-19-2008
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Re: Engine Clanking -WTF!!!
That sucks so bad brandon. Im really feeling for ya, especially with the dyno day that was coming up. Ugh I hate cars.. never work when you want them too.
Hope the damage isnt too bad. Im still kinda stumped as to how that could happen, unless a rod broke and threw the piston up at the spark plug.
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08-19-2008
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Shit Rocket Pilot
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: Engine Clanking -WTF!!!
I just noticed something in this picture....
Look how high up that valve spring is... I'm willing to bet that the valve is not connected to the valve stem any longer.
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Every minute you spend in your Evo, not in boost, is a minute of your life you'll never get back.
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08-19-2008
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#33
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flips McGee
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Re: Engine Clanking -WTF!!!
Yup, maybe broken valve. Sucky
Brandon, I washed my 1G once (under the hood) with a bunch of water, some directly on the CAS. The car would NOT start afterwards, I killed the CAS. No way this would cause this, but related info....is your filter still down by the wheel? There's almost no way you'd hydrolock the motor with it way down there, hanging downwards especially. The water would just drain out, unless the filter got absolutely soaked and then you sucked in some water as you started the car. Still fairly unlikely considering how your filter/mas is situated.
LOL @ the spark plug pic and comment, you are funny man! Keep your head up through this, I know it sucks. I have a head that needs a rebuild that you can have for cheap cheap, and a ton of parts to go with it.
Post more pics when you get the head off, but maybe do the TDC height check on Cyl 1 vs 4 before ya yank it off just for giggles.
I dunno, it almost has to be hydrolock, I don't know what else it'd be....
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08-19-2008
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Re: Engine Clanking -WTF!!!
I had an intake just like brandon, with the filter down in the wheel well. One day driving home there was a huge rain storm and all of a sudden in front of me the road had about 6 inches of water, I couldnt stop in time and rolled right in it. Car died, trying cranking it over and it wouldnt run. So I sat there waiting for AAA. Got the car home, emptied probably a gallon of water from the IC piping and core.
Car started right up once everything was dry, I had a GM maft in blow through also.
Hope it didnt hydrolock, doesnt sound like it did, as it would have died right away.
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08-19-2008
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Re: Engine Clanking -WTF!!!
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Originally Posted by Matt D.
I just noticed something in this picture....
Look how high up that valve spring is... I'm willing to bet that the valve is not connected to the valve stem any longer.
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It looks fine. You cant compare the spring to anything because the cam is pushing the valve open on cyl #2 and compressing the spring almost all the way down. So there for it looks like the spring on cyl #1 is way higher.
Can you turn the motor over by hand?
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08-19-2008
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Re: Engine Clanking -WTF!!!
Which advice from me are you referring to?
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08-19-2008
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#37
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,647
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Re: Engine Clanking -WTF!!!
Man, that sucks!
Is your air filter still on? Maybe the car wash knocked it loose if its in the wheel well area or low hanging? I'm guessing you already checked that.
later,
Curt
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08-19-2008
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#38
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15min late to the world
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Re: Engine Clanking -WTF!!!
Time to pull the head, it looks like something look a trip threw your motor. The plug looks that way from stuff smashing into it.
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08-19-2008
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#39
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
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Re: Engine Clanking -WTF!!!
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Which advice from me are you referring to?
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It was sarcasm. I just imagined you coming on here, and posting a real thread, asking how to gap that plug because you aren't sure where the gap is I joke I kid.
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08-19-2008
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#40
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: st paul
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Posts: 531
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Re: Engine Clanking -WTF!!!
haha... and i dont think it was from anything gettin into the motor. it was the NOS!
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