11-27-2009
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Kevin
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Need an opinion on trannys
Pretend you were in the market for buying a modded DSM. Lets say it has 450awhp on a DynoD. If this car had a stock tranny that worked great, would that have an effect on you buying the car?
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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Re: Need an opinion on trannys
Nope not at all. You can have that trans modified when the time comes for $1300 that will handle a lot more than that. if it shifts fine now don't worry about it till something happens.
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Transmission destroyer
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Re: Need an opinion on trannys
I would be a little skeptical, my car was making ~250 AWHP DD when my freshly rebuilt stock tranny completely granaded. The shitty thing about it was that it had maybe had 10-12 launches, none of which were even within 3 months before it took a poop on me. I was just doing normal driving making a 3-4 shift and it went BOOM. Next tranny I hope to buy will be a Shep/TRE/Jack's
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11-27-2009
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: Need an opinion on trannys
Hell no, I would just keep in mind that it would be something to upgrade, but a lot of people are making that much power or more on a stock trans, some refuse to pay that much to build it.
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11-27-2009
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aka Goodbye
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Re: Need an opinion on trannys
For that power level, you don't really need anything more than a good rebuild by Shep for around $1000, or you could splurge and get the 4-spider diff for added strength. If you can verify the current stock tranny is good as-is, there's no reason it can't handle that power already.
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Shit Rocket Pilot
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Re: Need an opinion on trannys
If it drove good I wouldn't think twice about it.
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Big Turbo Monster
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Re: Need an opinion on trannys
Depends. If my goals were to make 600+ hp out of the car I was buying, I would put more efforts in finding a car with a built tranny if I was buying. If I was looking to keep it around 450whp, I wouldn't care as much.
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AWD4G64
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Re: Need an opinion on trannys
Id say it depends on the price. If you want alot for a 1g and I was looking it better have a built tranny. But then again just because it has a built tranny doesnt mean it will last. right Kevin?
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Re: Need an opinion on trannys
I ran my old 1g stock tranny with 420awhp for a while then it grenaded.
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Kevin
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Re: Need an opinion on trannys
Yeah my Shep stage 3 blew up...
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Kevin
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Re: Need an opinion on trannys
I am considering just selling my car with a stock tranny, or even just a basic shep rebuild. Or if i keep it, a built tranny AGAIN haha.
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Re: Need an opinion on trannys
interesting. I'd probably not buy it because with that power, im sure the trans won't live to long. I'd say just get a rebuilt trans. I'd be more than happy with a stage 1 or 2 rebuilt.
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Re: Need an opinion on trannys
I'd say if you have someone willing to buy the car right now, and they don't mind it having a stock tranny, then go that rout. If you don't foresee anyone buying it any time soon, I'd just go with a basic shep rebuild with a 4spider.
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11-28-2009
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Re: Need an opinion on trannys
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Originally Posted by Kevin 1G Drummer
I'd just go with a basic shep rebuild with a 4spider.
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+1 for that. Just a basic rebuild with a 4-spider.
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Re: Need an opinion on trannys
^agreed.
How did you break a shep stg 3?
Hill is on a stg. 1, has been for a long time with over 500.
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Re: Need an opinion on trannys
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Originally Posted by matt d.
if it drove good i wouldn't think twice about it.
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Big Turbo Monster
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Re: Need an opinion on trannys
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^agreed.
How did you break a shep stg 3?
Hill is on a stg. 1, has been for a long time with over 500.
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Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think Steve puts that many miles on his car anymore either.
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7/25/09
Motorcycle cop pulls up next to me on UNI and says "Want to race?"
Me- "I don't think you would stand a chance."
Cop says "probably not" and drives off.
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Transmission destroyer
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Re: Need an opinion on trannys
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Originally Posted by slowbubblecar
Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think Steve puts that many miles on his car anymore either.
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Nor has it been pushed really hard from what I can tell.
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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Re: Need an opinion on trannys
It comes down to how you drive, not just how much power you have. You could have 600hp and make a stock tranny last, or have 250 and grenade a built tranny. For a decent amount of drag racing, your example is probably starting to push your luck if you're going for good 60' times. IMO torque and how you launch are the two main transmission breakers, not hp so much.
Oh, for the actual question: A stock tranny vs built would have some impact. It wouldn't make or break the sale itself, but I'd probably be willing to pay a bit extra with a built up transmission; no where near what a built tranny would cost though.
Last edited by jrohner; 11-29-2009 at 12:06 AM..
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11-29-2009
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Old & Grumpy
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Re: Need an opinion on trannys
Is Shepherd still building transmissions? His website hasn't been updated in over two years and www.sheptrans.com is a dead link.
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