12-22-2014
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Re: Time to replace the Envoy
Halon, if you are looking for a V8 but dont want to pay R/T prices. theres a RWD Crew with the Hemi V8 (didnt know they came like that)
http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/de...4863/overview/
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12-22-2014
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#102
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Re: Time to replace the Envoy
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Originally Posted by Kracka
Consider buying this month...gets inventory off dealer lots for tax purposes, dealerships and salesmen making a last minute push to meet goals, etc.
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This is the second time this week I've heard that, I know its probably true but what is the math behind that tax incentive? If anything it would drive their income up, no? Can anyone explain that to me?
That being said it IS true--helped a buddy buy a used subaru this weekend and talked a small local dealer down $1k (on a $5k car) w/o much hassle.
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...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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12-22-2014
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#103
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Re: Time to replace the Envoy
It doesn't help with taxes, it just makes their financials look better. Lower inventory and more income = win, win.
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12-22-2014
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#104
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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Re: Time to replace the Envoy
There are two things here, business owners buy last min car for tax write off for 2014 and dealers meeting their quotes for bonus and budget incentives.
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12-22-2014
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#105
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Re: Time to replace the Envoy
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12-30-2014
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#106
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: Time to replace the Envoy
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12-30-2014
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#107
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flips McGee
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Re: Time to replace the Envoy
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Originally Posted by JET
It doesn't help with taxes, it just makes their financials look better. Lower inventory and more income = win, win.
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Originally Posted by SLOW_V
There are two things here, business owners buy last min car for tax write off for 2014 and dealers meeting their quotes for bonus and budget incentives.
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None of those address the things I mentioned actually. Yes I understand they want to sell as much as possible end of year, quotas, etc....and I understand a biz owner wanting to add some depreciation. I have directly heard and seen typed on this forum dealers wanting to lower their inventory 'for tax purposes'
If I'm missing something let me know 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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12-30-2014
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Re: Time to replace the Envoy
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Originally Posted by JET
It doesn't help with taxes, it just makes their financials look better. Lower inventory and more income = win, win.
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Businesses are taxed on inventory.
Inventory = assets
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I agree with Kracka.
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12-30-2014
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#109
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Re: Time to replace the Envoy
Not only that, but we pay interest on our inventory. We don't own any of our new cars.
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12-30-2014
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#110
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: Time to replace the Envoy
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Originally Posted by scheides
None of those address the things I mentioned actually. Yes I understand they want to sell as much as possible end of year, quotas, etc....and I understand a biz owner wanting to add some depreciation. I have directly heard and seen typed on this forum dealers wanting to lower their inventory 'for tax purposes'
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Didn't read your post.
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12-30-2014
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flips McGee
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Re: Time to replace the Envoy
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
Didn't read your post.
Just trying to be helpful.
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LOL! Reading = hard
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Originally Posted by Kracka
Businesses are taxed on inventory.
Inventory = assets
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Now this makes sense! Simple.
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Not only that, but we pay interest on our inventory. We don't own any of our new cars.
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I suppose you get to write off that interest too for some reason?
Brandon--did you drive a toureg tdi yet or what? 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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12-30-2014
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#112
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Re: Time to replace the Envoy
I did not. Haven't drove anything for a couple weeks, been focused on our theater room. I did just also read an article that 2015 will be the last year of the Durango. Fiat is supposidely tryng to reduce redundancy in the line ups, so they want to ditch it since its basically a stretched Grand Cherokee now. Still at the top of my list though!
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12-31-2014
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#113
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: Time to replace the Envoy
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Originally Posted by scheides
LOL! Reading = hard
Now this makes sense! Simple.
I suppose you get to write off that interest too for some reason?
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02-02-2015
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#114
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Re: Time to replace the Envoy
Got a Durango today! 2013 Dodge Durango SXT, With some options like Tow Package, Touch Screen with 30GB hard drive, AWD, etc. It has the V6 which is still quite peppy.
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02-02-2015
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#115
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Re: Time to replace the Envoy
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Originally Posted by Halon
I did not. Haven't drove anything for a couple weeks, been focused on our theater room. I did just also read an article that 2015 will be the last year of the Durango. Fiat is supposidely tryng to reduce redundancy in the line ups, so they want to ditch it since its basically a stretched Grand Cherokee now. Still at the top of my list though!
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The official announcement from chrysler was that the durango was going to stay past 2017. They were thinking that they were going to cut it off when the grand wagoneer comes out, but decided not to because of the redesign etc.
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02-02-2015
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#116
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Re: Time to replace the Envoy
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02-02-2015
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#117
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Re: Time to replace the Envoy
Looks really nice! Hopefully the quality has come up a lot from past models.
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02-02-2015
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#118
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Re: Time to replace the Envoy
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Originally Posted by JET
Looks really nice! Hopefully the quality has come up a lot from past models.
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from everything i have read the redesign in 2011 really did a lot to fix the image.
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02-02-2015
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#119
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Re: Time to replace the Envoy
Looks nice man! And yeah the Durango really isn't a Durango anymore, is just a stretched Grand Cherokee, which I think is why they are doing much better. Still looking for a 2014 myself, but again will likely be several months before I do it, especially after we just got done spending money on the theater room.
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02-02-2015
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#120
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Re: Time to replace the Envoy
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Originally Posted by Halon
Looks nice man! And yeah the Durango really isn't a Durango anymore, is just a stretched Grand Cherokee, which I think is why they are doing much better. Still looking for a 2014 myself, but again will likely be several months before I do it, especially after we just got done spending money on the theater room.
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i love the 2014s, was close to leasing one but couldnt get the monthly close enough to $400 per month. The guage screen is crazy awesome. Will be interesting to see when they come out with the SRT8 version.
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