800 hp goal Dsm build - Page 2

DSMINMN · 01-06-2015

People don't say Mitsubishi transmissions are made out of glass for no reason. Lol Good luck to you on that aspect.

dsmDolney · 01-06-2015

I dont know a stage 3 tmz are rated over 1000 hp. But i guess ill think about it. Ill take pros and cons from the two

sleepydsm · 01-06-2015

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Originally Posted by dsmDolney

I dont know a stage 3 tmz are rated over 1000 hp. But i guess ill think about it. Ill take pros and cons from the two

I broke 2x built Shep trannys and made like 500hp.

I'd suggest dogbox or auto, if you want to DRIVE you car versus have it on jackstands.

DSMINMN · 01-06-2015

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Originally Posted by sleepydsm

I broke 2x built Shep trannys and made like 500hp.

I'd suggest dogbox or auto, if you want to DRIVE you car versus have it on jackstands.

If you go for a dogbox and a triple disc (seems to be an amazing setup), you're looking at $15k..yeah, $15,000. That's quite a bit for just the transmission.

sleepydsm · 01-07-2015

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Originally Posted by DSMINMN

If you go for a dogbox and a triple disc (seems to be an amazing setup), you're looking at $15k..yeah, $15,000. That's quite a bit for just the transmission.

HUH

Magnus lists their PPG DSM Dog box gears for $6700. A nice triple disk is $2500.

DSMINMN · 01-07-2015

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Originally Posted by sleepydsm

HUH

Magnus lists their PPG DSM Dog box gears for $6700. A nice triple disk is $2500.

Last I checked $15k was the shortly rounded up number. $6,700 for just gears? How about installation/rebuild & shipping? As I said, the number I had was rounded up but not far.

dsmDolney · 01-07-2015

Still 10k for a tranny is really not what im looking to spend. You guys what would be the best route to go with an auto built wise. I was looking into converters and stuff already and stuff.

Dark2g · 01-07-2015

Auto is the way to go if u don't want to be fixing stuff all the time but I would rather sell my cars then have an auto. My 2 pennies Auto just takes something about driving away from the experience at least for me. To be the fastest is unrealistic so just build the car to what u enjoy and have fun with it. Things will just be breaking at big power levels and that is just part of the game.

I read good things about magnus launch control setups if u wanna try be less abusive to your driveline well launching. I have been pretty fortunate tell just this fall with stock rebuilt trans and a twin disc. Ruined a 2 spyder and shift fork. Really no big deal and wanted to build the trans properly and just had not gotten to It yet. Next year will tell how it holds up but then again I am not trying to set any records.

dsmDolney · 01-07-2015

Thats just the thing i think a 800 hp car with a manual would just be fun as hell to take down the strip to me it seems. And same here i just want to have fun with it not trying to be top dog or set records like you said yourself. Alteast yet ha ha.

turbotalon1g · 01-07-2015

Look into getting your transmission faceplates, iirc it's about $2500-3500. It's amazing, auto is boring as shit and why in 4 years I've put on maybe 3k miles, my 5 spd car I averaged well over 15k miles a season.

dsmDolney · 01-07-2015

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auto is boring as shit and why in 4 years I've put on maybe 3k miles, my 5 spd car I averaged well over 15k miles a season.

Ill take that into perspective Aaron. Still think im going manual tho. If it breaks it breaks itll sit untill i come up with enough money to fix it. Sounds stupid but i guess its all on me whatever happens

URV8SUX · 01-07-2015

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Originally Posted by t aurbotalon1g

Look into getting your transmission faceplates, iirc it's about $2500-3500. It's amazing, auto is boring as shit and why in 4 years I've put on maybe 3k miles, my 5 spd car I averaged well over 15k miles a season.

Or see if liberty will faceplate DSM gear!!!!???. They do Honda stuff for each gear for $80(so 4), sliders for $250, and hubs $160.

Mark Leasure · 01-07-2015

I broke two 5 speed transmissions. I ran multiple high 9 second passes on the original trans, then the car got faster and then the breakage started happening. Both stripped 4th gear. I recommend that you stick with a 5 speed for a while, then upgrade to a dogbox if you still like racing, your power and track times warrant it. I would upgrade a lot of other stuff before the transmission - rear axles, transfercase, driveshaft, and then a dogbox. And once your at the dogbox level you'll never look back!

Or go auto, either way.

turbotalon1g · 01-07-2015

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Originally Posted by URV8SUX

Or see if liberty will faceplate DSM gear!!!!???. They do Honda stuff for each gear for $80(so 4), sliders for $250, and hubs $160.

Pushit2.0 · 01-08-2015

I think Liberty is a major player in the Doxbox gear set for the DSM so they might not look into faceplating for it. From first hand 10k plus shifting a well setup trans from all Evo3 stuff and a good multi plate clutch will shift at 10k at almost 1000whp for a while, any miss shifts and its onto grinding off points on hub/slider and braking springs like its going out of style.

dsmDolney · 01-08-2015

Very well said Mark. Thank you for the opponion. I dont think ill need to go with a dogbox with the power ill hit. But i agree with Mark i think id be more worried about snapping a tcase or axle first before blowing a tranny

tehehodi · 01-08-2015

Are you towing to the track or driving it to the track and also on the streets?

Mark probably tows his car as well. He's got all them evos to play with. Wear and tear is limited to just the track at this point in a more "controlled" setting.

Correct me if i'm wrong. I'm kind of just speaking out my arse.

dsmDolney · 01-08-2015

It will be towed and no street time. This is just the track car. I have my dd 2g for the street ha ha

turbotalon1g · 01-08-2015

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Originally Posted by Pushit2.0

I think Liberty is a major player in the Doxbox gear set for the DSM so they might not look into faceplating for it. From first hand 10k plus shifting a well setup trans from all Evo3 stuff and a good multi plate clutch will shift at 10k at almost 1000whp for a while, any miss shifts and its onto grinding off points on hub/slider and braking springs like its going out of style.

Liberty DOES faceplates for DSM transmissions.

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 01-08-2015

Does face plating help besides with high rpm shifting and making it worse to drive on the street?