HOW IS THIS NOT ALREADY A THING?!

[tpunx99GSX]

I would LOVE to see actual statistics and real data to support your arguments other than "Someone told me they were doing this, and i believe them" Because making that argument without ANYTHING to back it up, is elitist and just plain wrong.
There was a recent startalk i was listening to where they were talking about UFOs, and how scientists laugh at eyewitness testimony due to the fact that human eyes and minds are flawed where they will come to conclusions that have no scientific data to back it up.
Just because you want to see something some way, does not make it true, and you heard it from someone who heard it from another, does not make it true either.
Fact of the matter is that yeah, there COULD be people gaming the system, HOWEVER, you are painting with broad strokes a picture that the whole welfare system is broken and wasting your precious tax dollars which simple is not true. Is it flawless, no, Nothing is. Does it do more good than not? Yes. Could a WorkFare system work better in conjunction with a Welfare system, yes. But frankly, painting all welfare recipients as escalade driving, filet mignon buying cheaters is just stupid without any evidence.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

I would LOVE to see actual statistics and real data to support your arguments other than "Someone told me they were doing this, and i believe them" Because making that argument without ANYTHING to back it up, is elitist and just plain wrong.
There was a recent startalk i was listening to where they were talking about UFOs, and how scientists laugh at eyewitness testimony due to the fact that human eyes and minds are flawed where they will come to conclusions that have no scientific data to back it up.
Just because you want to see something some way, does not make it true, and you heard it from someone who heard it from another, does not make it true either.
Fact of the matter is that yeah, there COULD be people gaming the system, HOWEVER, you are painting with broad strokes a picture that the whole welfare system is broken and wasting your precious tax dollars which simple is not true. Is it flawless, no, Nothing is. Does it do more good than not? Yes. Could a WorkFare system work better in conjunction with a Welfare system, yes. But frankly, painting all welfare recipients as escalade driving, filet mignon buying cheaters is just stupid without any evidence.

I guess the article I posted where statistics showed "After forcing these individuals to either work part-time for twenty hours each week, enroll in a vocational program, or volunteer for a minimum of twenty-four hours per month, the numbers showed a significant drop from 12,000 enrollees to just over 2,500" isn't proof enough for you? Talk about having blinders on,.......

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

And the drug test argument, I am for drug testing. HOWEVER, This would need to be a BLANKET policy for anyone receiving govt money. Politicians, Farmers, Students, Teachers, i can go on. There is no reason to single out welfare recipients.

I'm all for it, especially the politicians,........
Love the double standard that I have to take a drug test to earn the money I get taxed on, but the beneficiaries if my tax dollars don't.
It's also funny how you lump working people who earn their money (Politicians, Farmers, Students, Teachers, i can go on) into the same catagory as welfare recipients. Obviously, you don't know the difference between the two,.........