Supreme Court hears arguments for Gay Marriages

[A//// Guy]

lol oh boy, yea Im done reasoning with you. Two consenting adults can do as they please. Pyromania, beastiality and pedophilia hurts others in many different ways. How do gay people harm you or anyone? Terrible comparisons.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Why not call it an illness? Because it might offend somebody? What about Pediohpiles? What about Pyromania? Beastiality? Those are illnesses related to the way people think. Should they get a pass too?

Yes, I do have a friend who is a lesbian, and she knows how I feel about it, and she respects my opinion. But in knowing her as long as I have, I also see other underlying issues in her personality that have a big influence,.. mental instability, anxiety disorder, fear of men from an overbearing father, etc. And if you look at it from that perspective, you might pick up on it when interacting with others in the LGBT community.

Why not call it an illness... because its not. Not the same as pedophiles, pyros and beastiality.
And because you have a friend that is a lesbian that makes you an expert, and because this lesbian has mental issues, makes all gays have mental issues? I know plenty of straight men who have mental issues beyond repair, (im quoting one in this reply) and yet that doesnt make all straight people sick.

[polishmafia]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Well same sex marriage is not natural either. Let's call it what it is, a mental illness

I'm curious to know what you would do if you had a child that grew up and told you they were gay/lesbian/transgender. Send them to anti-gay camp? Would you never speak to them again? Let me know.

Other than that, I'm done.

Oh, at the next funeral of a gay person you protest at wearing your god hates fags t-shirt, make sure to bring sunscreen cause of global warming and shit.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by polishmafia

Oh, at the next funeral of a gay person you protest at wearing your god hates fags t-shirt, make sure to bring sunscreen cause of global warming and shit.

LMFAO, i wasnt the only one thinking this.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by A//// Guy

lol oh boy, yea Im done reasoning with you. Two consenting adults can do as they please. Pyromania, beastiality and pedophilia hurts others in many different ways. How do gay people harm you or anyone? Terrible comparisons.

Yes two consenting adults can do as they please, but it's not a marriage.

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Why not call it an illness... because its not. Not the same as pedophiles, pyros and beastiality.
And because you have a friend that is a lesbian that makes you an expert, and because this lesbian has mental issues, makes all gays have mental issues? I know plenty of straight men who have mental issues beyond repair, (im quoting one in this reply) and yet that doesnt make all straight people sick.

Look in the mirror,...
You can sit here and try to justify the "feel good" notions of "What's normal?" and what should be accepted as normal. But in reality it's not a normal function of the human race, or nature in general, to pair off into non-reproductive pairs. By the examples of nature, these pairings would end through natural extinction from lack of reproduction.
And you can call me a horrible person for stating the facts as I see them, but you can't take away the facts of what I'm saying are true.

Originally Posted by polishmafia

I'm curious to know what you would do if you had a child that grew up and told you they were gay/lesbian/transgender. Send them to anti-gay camp? Would you never speak to them again? Let me know.

Other than that, I'm done.

Oh, at the next funeral of a gay person you protest at wearing your god hates fags t-shirt, make sure to bring sunscreen cause of global warming and shit.

The same as I told my friend, I don't agree with it. And notice she is still my friend no less. Same as if it were my child, it would still be my child. And they would be free to make they're own choices.

Your last statement is hilarious though, you assume too much about me. But personal attacks are the norm for the left,.....

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

LMFAO, i wasnt the only one thinking this.

Some how I'm not surprised,......

[A//// Guy]

While Tom is pretty liberal, I know Pete is pretty far right wing, and im a little under that. Its funny though, because it seems only ultra right wing thinks gay marriage is an attack on everyone elses values.

While you dont have to agree its marriage, it will be law soon, so it wont matter what you think.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Look in the mirror,...
You can sit here and try to justify the "feel good" notions of "What's normal?" and what should be accepted as normal. But in reality it's not a normal function of the human race, or nature in general, to pair off into non-reproductive pairs. By the examples of nature, these pairings would end through natural extinction from lack of reproduction.
And you can call me a horrible person for stating the facts as I see them, but you can't take away the facts of what I'm saying are true.

Its funny how you can deny science in one thread, but evolution through natural selection is ok with you... oh wait you probably dont believe that but just stated it.
Humans will not go extinct due to gay marriage. No one is forcing everyone to all of the sudden become gay. its just not a problem that modern society will see.
Like peter said, its not something you can stop, and you can fight it all you want, but it doesnt matter. It will get passed, and that will be the end of it.

[polishmafia]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Same as if it were my child, it would still be my child. And they would be free to make they're own choices.

But you would freely admit that your gay child would have a mental illness, right?

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Your last statement is hilarious though, you assume too much about me. But personal attacks are the norm for the left,.....

Pot, kettle, black. You assume I'm a lefty like Tom, but your assumption is dead wrong.

My personal attacks don't come from me being a lefty or righty. They come from me being an all-around 100% American asshole.

[Kracka]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Why not call it an illness... because its not. Not the same as pedophiles, pyros and beastiality.

It's a slippery slope to call any of these an illness if you're willing to exclude others. People are often times born liking what they like out of no control of their own. Society is slowly becoming more accepting of things outside the norm so who's to say, for example, beastiality isn't next? All are unnatural, but there are still plenty of people who enjoy/crave/want/seek it.

[AwdGSX13]

Originally Posted by Kracka

It's a slippery slope to call any of these an illness if you're willing to exclude others. People are often times born liking what they like out of no control of their own. Society is slowly becoming more accepting of things outside the norm so who's to say, for example, beastiality isn't next? All are unnatural, but there are still plenty of people who enjoy/crave/want/seek it.

+1

good way of putting it.

[A//// Guy]

What is normal and natural? Everyone has their own definition, that is true.

Also what is being broken here, the sanctity of marriage itself?

Because if that's true, then should divorce be illegal? Should strip clubs be illegal since that's a form of prostitution? Capital punishment? Where do you narrow down anything really, it all comes down to a collective society of whats acceptable and whats not. Obviously the people are speaking out because as a whole they feel gay marriage is now acceptable. Sure some wont like it, but you cant make everyone agree on everything.

[Goat Blower]

Originally Posted by polishmafia

I could not agree with this sarcastic statement more. This is so not important that it shouldn't even be at the Supreme Court level. Let them get married, be happy or be miserable. This shouldn't even be an issue.

Ha, this is not what I meant by this statement. I don't agree with gay marriage one bit, but I'm all for gay civil unions, or make up something altogether different, I don't really care. Marriage has been defined for thousands of years, no need to make sweeping changes for the whims of 1% of our population.

I was actually poking fun at the way the world is going to shit by the minute, monthly riots and looting in the US over known criminals, beheadings, possible nuclear threats, and Barry keeps saying GW is our biggest threat. Perhaps the biggest non-issue of all.

[polishmafia]

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

I was actually poking fun at the way the world is going to shit by the minute, monthly riots and looting in the US over known criminals, beheadings, possible nuclear threats, and Barry keeps saying GW is our biggest threat. Perhaps the biggest non-issue of all.

I knew what you were trying to say, and whether we agree or not on the topic, we both know that there are much bigger things the govt should be focusing on.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Its funny how you can deny science in one thread, but evolution through natural selection is ok with you... oh wait you probably dont believe that but just stated it.
Humans will not go extinct due to gay marriage. No one is forcing everyone to all of the sudden become gay. its just not a problem that modern society will see.
Like peter said, its not something you can stop, and you can fight it all you want, but it doesnt matter. It will get passed, and that will be the end of it.

I believe in science, just not manipulated for an agenda science, there is a big difference. You might wake up and see that one day.

You misunderstood my comments. Of course the human race will not go extinct due to gay marriage. But through natural selection the LGBT community should, with all things being equal, because two men or two women can't reproduce together on their own.

Don't be so sure about it becoming law just yet. The SCOTUS can't right law, they can only undo a law they find unconstitutional. And saying that marriage is between a man and a woman is not unconstitutional.

Originally Posted by polishmafia

But you would freely admit that your gay child would have a mental illness, right?



Pot, kettle, black. You assume I'm a lefty like Tom, but your assumption is dead wrong.

My personal attacks don't come from me being a lefty or righty. They come from me being an all-around 100% American asshole.

Yes.

Not from what I see in your post.

I agree.

Originally Posted by Kracka

It's a slippery slope to call any of these an illness if you're willing to exclude others. People are often times born liking what they like out of no control of their own. Society is slowly becoming more accepting of things outside the norm so who's to say, for example, beastiality isn't next? All are unnatural, but there are still plenty of people who enjoy/crave/want/seek it.

+1

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

Ha, this is not what I meant by this statement. I don't agree with gay marriage one bit, but I'm all for gay civil unions, or make up something altogether different, I don't really care. Marriage has been defined for thousands of years, no need to make sweeping changes for the whims of 1% of our population.

I was actually poking fun at the way the world is going to shit by the minute, monthly riots and looting in the US over known criminals, beheadings, possible nuclear threats, and Barry keeps saying GW is our biggest threat. Perhaps the biggest non-issue of all.

+1

Originally Posted by A//// Guy

What is normal and natural? Everyone has their own definition, that is true.

Also what is being broken here, the sanctity of marriage itself?

Because if that's true, then should divorce be illegal? Should strip clubs be illegal since that's a form of prostitution? Capital punishment? Where do you narrow down anything really, it all comes down to a collective society of whats acceptable and whats not. Obviously the people are speaking out because as a whole they feel gay marriage is now acceptable. Sure some wont like it, but you cant make everyone agree on everything.

And as a collective society, I would bet you the silent majority out number the LGBT community many times over. All we see and hear are the 1% screaming for wants,....

Originally Posted by polishmafia

I knew what you were trying to say, and whether we agree or not on the topic, we both know that there are much bigger things the govt should be focusing on.

This ^^ especially at the SCOTUS level.

[A//// Guy]

This thread is now on a SCROTUS level.

[1ViciousGSX]

SCROTUS or SCROTUM? LoL

[Halon]

Speaking of which, the other day on Netflix streaming, under the "Popular On Netflix Now" category was a movie called Scrotal Recall, made me do a double take...

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by Halon

Speaking of which, the other day on Netflix streaming, under the "Popular On Netflix Now" category was a movie called Scrotal Recall, made me do a double take...

[A//// Guy]

Hahaha I saw that in there too B, intrigued me a bit. But I still favor bewbs so whatever agenda Netflix has, it isnt working yet.