removal of monuments from government property

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

How about the fact that this nation was built on Christian values which does no one any harm. Or that fact that people want to come to America because of what its stands for, but then want to change it into where they came from.

Did you really just say Christian Values does no one any harm... History tends to disagree with you completely.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Did you really just say Christian Values does no one any harm... History tends to disagree with you completely.

Oh Tom, its a new age,... remember? History has been rewritten to tell you the crusades that happened centuries ago where an attack by the Catholic church when in reality it was in response to Muslim attacks on Christians.
Kind of like what's going on today,.....

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Oh Tom, its a new age,... remember? History has been rewritten to tell you the crusades that happened centuries ago where an attack by the Catholic church when in reality it was in response to Muslim attacks on Christians.
Kind of like what's going on today,.....

The Crusades
The Salem Witch Trials
the 30 Years war (40% of the population destroyed mostly in germany)
Various wars vs Protestents
1648 Chmielnitzki massacres in poland (200,000 jews slain)
Atrocities against Native Americans, from genocides to taking children and putting them in white washing schools in Oklahoma which happened against a large number of the midwest indians.
There have been MILLIONS Exterminated and lives ruined due to your christian values and history, and we are not talking about just old time history, we are talking fairly recent history, however christians sure are quick to wash over this and act like it didnt happen and wont happen again.

[SlowWhite]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Did you really just say Christian Values does no one any harm... History tends to disagree with you completely.

And how long ago were the crusades?

And what is the church doing now?

(I have my own view of religion, especially when it comes to going to church, I dont tie myself to any one christian denomination as I see faults with them all, so although its christian based i dont put a title on my beliefs.

For me with out religion in our gov. and laws based on it, our world as we know it will plunge back to the stone age.

If you think about it. Almost all of our world is what is today because of Christian or catholic people. And it sucks so many people are undoing century's of work. Because our government (obama... just for you tom because you said you were waiting for it) has made it so people have next to no responsibilities because they know our government will just support them financially.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by SlowWhite

And how long ago were the crusades?

And what is the church doing now?

(I have my own view of religion, especially when it comes to going to church, I dont tie myself to any one christian denomination as I see faults with them all, so although its christian based i dont put a title on my beliefs.

For me with out religion in our gov. and laws based on it, our world as we know it will plunge back to the stone age.

If you think about it. Almost all of our world is what is today because of Christian or catholic people. And it sucks so many people are undoing century's of work. Because our government (obama... just for you tom because you said you were waiting for it) has made it so people have next to no responsibilities because they know our government will just support them financially.

Well the church does a lot now and RECENT history. Whether it be oppression of homosexuals, oppression of human rights towards women, as early as the 20s and 40s indoctrination of native Americans where they removed children from their families to make them assimilate into their religions through boarding schools.
You can believe Christianity has changed but you would be wrong. It has as much blood and travesties on it as any other religion.

[SlowWhite]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Well the church does a lot now and RECENT history. Whether it be oppression of homosexuals, oppression of human rights towards women, as early as the 20s and 40s indo. Peorination of native Americans where they removed children from their families to make them assimilate into their religions through boarding schools.
You can believe Christianity has changed but you would be wrong. It has as much blood and travesties on it as any other religion.

I definetely agree with you, some of the worste crimes in history were done in the names of religion. And definitely there are still issues that are on going.

Again I stopped going to church because I got sick and tired of seeing it over and over again. Where it got twisted into peoples personal desires. And I believe thats what our history shows, its the people that get it wrong.