05-03-2009
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#301
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Cottage Grove
Drives: Silver '02 IS300, Blue '06 Suzuki SV1000
Posts: 5,293
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Re: My Talon
Ouch! I'd say that turbo is pretty much toast.
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05-03-2009
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#302
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
Drives: G37, 91 TSi
Posts: 7,150
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Re: My Talon
I've seen worse damage than that on Holsets and my brother was still able to rebuild them at the diesel shop he works at.
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05-03-2009
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#303
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Finally Tuned...
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Zimmerman
Drives: Spyder GSX
Posts: 2,484
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Re: My Talon
OMG!!!! I didnt think it was going to be that bad. Sorry to see that man! Any idea on what you are going to do now?
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97 Spyder AWD 6 bolt 2.3, 579hp 496tq **FOR SALE**
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05-03-2009
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#304
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
Drives: Teh Bean
Posts: 12,309
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Re: My Talon
I thought these were supposed to be durable?
J/K, Sucks to hear man. What's your plans?
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05-03-2009
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#305
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: My Talon
I had the same thing happen to me, well the line was uber loose, but i noticed a new leak so i checked it.
ANother thing to check.
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05-03-2009
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#306
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Unsure resident asshole
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: MN
Drives: '92 Eagle TalonTSI w/many mods
Posts: 3,696
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Re: My Talon
Wanna take our turbos and throw them at each other..we can see which will be more durable then! flippin car shits.
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05-03-2009
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#307
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Kevin
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Shoreview
Posts: 3,356
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Re: My Talon
Haha, well the feedline fitting that screws into the center section came loose. I'm sure because the turbo had very little oil flow and almost no pressure as I was making a pull everything got hot, the shaft seized/broke, and the turbine wheel went crazy. It also tore up the BEP housing I have...
So I will see about getting the turbo rebuilt, if it's possible. It that works, I'll try my best to clean up the turbine housing with a die grinder and hope it works half-assed.
This isn't anything about the turbo being unreliable. I'd get a Holset again.
I might look into a PTE as a cheaper alternative IF I cannot repair this turbo.
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05-03-2009
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#308
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Finally Tuned...
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Zimmerman
Drives: Spyder GSX
Posts: 2,484
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Re: My Talon
SCM61 go for it!
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94 Supra TT Auto, Project 9.xx in the works
97 Spyder AWD 6 bolt 2.3, 579hp 496tq **FOR SALE**
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05-03-2009
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#309
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
Drives: Teh Bean
Posts: 12,309
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Re: My Talon
I was kidding about the reliable thing. Best of luck with it dude!
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05-03-2009
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#310
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is Nashty
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Stillwater
Drives: Cyborg from Japan
Posts: 2,080
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Re: My Talon
Yeah I heard about your car this morning. That really sucks since you just got it up and going not too long ago. But what can ya do..
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05-03-2009
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#311
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: new brighton
Drives: 04 evo
Posts: 1,212
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Re: My Talon
I cant believe this happend, its crazy I was actually at my house when you called. Alyssa came in and said some car was on fire at the gas station and then i get a call from you. At least it wasnt the motor, I guess we all are not having the best of luck with our cars.
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05-04-2009
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#312
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: My Talon
weird man. sorry to hear.
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05-04-2009
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#313
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Holset's Sex Bitch
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Virginia
Drives: 1990 Eclipse, 1991 Eclipse with a little Holset Sex
Posts: 74
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Re: My Talon
OUCH!
You can get a wh1e to bolt into your hx40 turbine housing. It has a 58mm 8blade compressor. Or just a standard 8blade 58mm inducer hx40. You don't need that 7blade or 6blade 60mm wheel. Not remotely for your horsepower. 8blade hx40, 535whp on a dynapack and 139mph with 2760lb race weight: Click. You have another 100hp to go before you should wonder about having the 60mm wheel. That could save you some $$$.
. . . Research holset fakes if you decide to get another holset. There's chinabay fake hx40s floating around. There's a thread on tuners about it. The word holset in the same font on the id plate that looks like a holset plate on the compressor cover and all. "xs power" pops up when you move the mouse over the pic. . .But You can spot the difference easily if you know what your'e lookign for. Holset is even pressing the issue with the authorities. Just a heads up if you're looking on ebay for a real holset.
Here's the thread. Click.
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Bolton Holset H1C w/ external gate, fp2X cams, DSMLink, 3" exhaust, FMIC, water injection
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05-04-2009
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#314
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Kevin
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Shoreview
Posts: 3,356
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Re: My Talon
I dropped it off at a local diesel shop. I even called a few places, pretty much everyone said I'll need a new center cartridge, if they can even ID the current one. Should be about, oh, $600... Booo.
All I know is that this is a 6-blade comp, 12 blade turbine, I got it brand new as just a HX40 for a DSM. Apprently there should be some part numbers on the back side of the compressor wheel, and they will hopefully try and match up that wheel with a new center section. I'd like to keep the 69lb/min comp wheel if possible. I won't be a stock 2.0L forever
Wheelhop do you know any part numbers for my 6 blade hx40?
Also, my turbine housing is a little messed up, guess I'll have to whip out the dremel!
Oh, and BEP housing for the lose: The bolt holes not tapped all the way through, my hardened steel turbo bolts missing 1/3 of their threads and a pain to remove.
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05-04-2009
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#315
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Kevin
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Shoreview
Posts: 3,356
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Re: My Talon
Or I'll just buy a new one lol cause I'm an idiot. or some lame PTE lol.
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05-04-2009
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#316
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
Drives: G37, 91 TSi
Posts: 7,150
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Re: My Talon
Did you try East Central Diesel up in Cambridge? My brother works up there and they do pretty damn good work.
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05-04-2009
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#317
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Holset's Sex Bitch
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Virginia
Drives: 1990 Eclipse, 1991 Eclipse with a little Holset Sex
Posts: 74
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Re: My Talon
Quote:
Originally Posted by sleepydsm
Wheelhop do you know any part numbers for my 6 blade hx40?
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hx40 compresso part numbers
There are VERY few hx40s out there with the 6blade wheel from the factory. They usually come with the slightly faster spooling and slightly lower flowing 10blade hx40 turbine (will bolt right into any hx40 cut turbine housing).
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Bolton Holset H1C w/ external gate, fp2X cams, DSMLink, 3" exhaust, FMIC, water injection
"There is nothing better for man than to eat, drink, and see good for all his hard work." Solomon
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05-04-2009
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#318
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Kevin
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Shoreview
Posts: 3,356
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Re: My Talon
Quote:
Originally Posted by wheelhop
hx40 compresso part numbers
There are VERY few hx40s out there with the 6blade wheel from the factory. They usually come with the slightly faster spooling and slightly lower flowing 10blade hx40 turbine (will bolt right into any hx40 cut turbine housing).
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thanks.
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05-08-2009
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#319
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Kevin
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Shoreview
Posts: 3,356
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Re: My Talon
Ok. So I brought my turbo to diesel components, and I'm extremely happy I did.
After looking at the turbo, it wasn't lack of oil that caused the failure, but a turbine blade broke off and sent everything to shit. Diesel Components had a matching turbine blade in stock, and it was the same. They normally stock the CHRA I need but they were out and one should be in next week! I'm kinda pissed, kinda not, about the turbine blade. They said they have seen it happen before...
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05-08-2009
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#320
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
Drives: Teh Bean
Posts: 12,309
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Re: My Talon
I wonder how they determine that. Wouldn't a catastrophic failure of the Center Section destroy a turbine blade?
Glad to hear you're getting it worked out. Come to the track!!
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