Supreme Court hears arguments for Gay Marriages

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by A//// Guy

lol oh boy, yea Im done reasoning with you. Two consenting adults can do as they please. Pyromania, beastiality and pedophilia hurts others in many different ways. How do gay people harm you or anyone? Terrible comparisons.

Yes two consenting adults can do as they please, but it's not a marriage.

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Why not call it an illness... because its not. Not the same as pedophiles, pyros and beastiality.
And because you have a friend that is a lesbian that makes you an expert, and because this lesbian has mental issues, makes all gays have mental issues? I know plenty of straight men who have mental issues beyond repair, (im quoting one in this reply) and yet that doesnt make all straight people sick.

Look in the mirror,...
You can sit here and try to justify the "feel good" notions of "What's normal?" and what should be accepted as normal. But in reality it's not a normal function of the human race, or nature in general, to pair off into non-reproductive pairs. By the examples of nature, these pairings would end through natural extinction from lack of reproduction.
And you can call me a horrible person for stating the facts as I see them, but you can't take away the facts of what I'm saying are true.

Originally Posted by polishmafia

I'm curious to know what you would do if you had a child that grew up and told you they were gay/lesbian/transgender. Send them to anti-gay camp? Would you never speak to them again? Let me know.

Other than that, I'm done.

Oh, at the next funeral of a gay person you protest at wearing your god hates fags t-shirt, make sure to bring sunscreen cause of global warming and shit.

The same as I told my friend, I don't agree with it. And notice she is still my friend no less. Same as if it were my child, it would still be my child. And they would be free to make they're own choices.

Your last statement is hilarious though, you assume too much about me. But personal attacks are the norm for the left,.....

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Look in the mirror,...
You can sit here and try to justify the "feel good" notions of "What's normal?" and what should be accepted as normal. But in reality it's not a normal function of the human race, or nature in general, to pair off into non-reproductive pairs. By the examples of nature, these pairings would end through natural extinction from lack of reproduction.
And you can call me a horrible person for stating the facts as I see them, but you can't take away the facts of what I'm saying are true.

Its funny how you can deny science in one thread, but evolution through natural selection is ok with you... oh wait you probably dont believe that but just stated it.
Humans will not go extinct due to gay marriage. No one is forcing everyone to all of the sudden become gay. its just not a problem that modern society will see.
Like peter said, its not something you can stop, and you can fight it all you want, but it doesnt matter. It will get passed, and that will be the end of it.

[polishmafia]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Same as if it were my child, it would still be my child. And they would be free to make they're own choices.

But you would freely admit that your gay child would have a mental illness, right?

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Your last statement is hilarious though, you assume too much about me. But personal attacks are the norm for the left,.....

Pot, kettle, black. You assume I'm a lefty like Tom, but your assumption is dead wrong.

My personal attacks don't come from me being a lefty or righty. They come from me being an all-around 100% American asshole.

[Kracka]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, regardless of where their beliefs stem from. I personally do not agree with gay marriage...that is my right and not up for debate

If they want a civil union or something similar to marriage, that's fine. I'm all for giving them equal, but different, rights, just under a different name.

[A//// Guy]

lmao I KNEW someone would take it to marrying animals. hahaha

Science cant explain what causes attraction to the same gender. So far nothing DNA based. Also to call it an illness is quite ignorant. Illness usually can be treated, this is something that can not. You cant change someone into thinking another way. Give it a try, think super hard about penises, doubtful you will start having a hankering for a long one.

You claim you have a lesbian friend, yet you feel they dont have the right to get married because they are sick? Go ahead and tell them that, pretty sure they wont be friends with you much longer.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by A//// Guy

lmao I KNEW someone would take it to marrying animals. hahaha

Science cant explain what causes attraction to the same gender. So far nothing DNA based. Also to call it an illness is quite ignorant. Illness usually can be treated, this is something that can not. You cant change someone into thinking another way. Give it a try, think super hard about penises, doubtful you will start having a hankering for a long one.

You claim you have a lesbian friend, yet you feel they dont have the right to get married because they are sick? Go ahead and tell them that, pretty sure they wont be friends with you much longer.

Why not call it an illness? Because it might offend somebody? What about Pediohpiles? What about Pyromania? Beastiality? Those are illnesses related to the way people think. Should they get a pass too?

Yes, I do have a friend who is a lesbian, and she knows how I feel about it, and she respects my opinion. But in knowing her as long as I have, I also see other underlying issues in her personality that have a big influence,.. mental instability, anxiety disorder, fear of men from an overbearing father, etc. And if you look at it from that perspective, you might pick up on it when interacting with others in the LGBT community.

I do love the aurguments that Tom just made though, the "separation of church and state", well, except for when somebody wants the state to change the way the church thinks,......
And "laws should not be written to take away the rights of people", unless you want to maintain the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman, or exersise you right to free speech, or gun ownership, or have water to irrigate your dying crops while flushing millions of gallons of fresh water into the ocean to protect a 3 inch minow (that will die when it gets flushed into the salt water), and so on,...

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Why not call it an illness? Because it might offend somebody? What about Pediohpiles? What about Pyromania? Beastiality? Those are illnesses related to the way people think. Should they get a pass too?

Yes, I do have a friend who is a lesbian, and she knows how I feel about it, and she respects my opinion. But in knowing her as long as I have, I also see other underlying issues in her personality that have a big influence,.. mental instability, anxiety disorder, fear of men from an overbearing father, etc. And if you look at it from that perspective, you might pick up on it when interacting with others in the LGBT community.

Why not call it an illness... because its not. Not the same as pedophiles, pyros and beastiality.
And because you have a friend that is a lesbian that makes you an expert, and because this lesbian has mental issues, makes all gays have mental issues? I know plenty of straight men who have mental issues beyond repair, (im quoting one in this reply) and yet that doesnt make all straight people sick.

[Kracka]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Why not call it an illness... because its not. Not the same as pedophiles, pyros and beastiality.

It's a slippery slope to call any of these an illness if you're willing to exclude others. People are often times born liking what they like out of no control of their own. Society is slowly becoming more accepting of things outside the norm so who's to say, for example, beastiality isn't next? All are unnatural, but there are still plenty of people who enjoy/crave/want/seek it.

[AwdGSX13]

Originally Posted by Kracka

It's a slippery slope to call any of these an illness if you're willing to exclude others. People are often times born liking what they like out of no control of their own. Society is slowly becoming more accepting of things outside the norm so who's to say, for example, beastiality isn't next? All are unnatural, but there are still plenty of people who enjoy/crave/want/seek it.

+1

good way of putting it.

[Kracka]

True friends are accepting and respectful of their friends' beliefs and opinions.

[A//// Guy]

Yea so he probably wouldnt bring up the topic with them becuase if they are passionate about it, they wouldnt be too happy with his remarks. Weve all had political debates as friends, but this is on a whole other level if you were in their shoes.

While I feel it isnt "natural" either, homosexual acts in nature are common between animals. Just one of those things we cant explain yet. Maybe some day we will be able to. For now Id say that group of people who want to be equal, deserve that right.

Regardless, marriage these days is a sham in most cases. Is the ratio still 50% end in divorce, maybe higher?

Just give it some time, if it doesn't become a fedaral law, all states will eventually pass the law anyway.

[tpunx99GSX]

Everyone deserves equal rights to be miserable.

Its stupid to sit here and argue this. Letting gay people get married affects your marriage in no way shape or form. Does it cause your marriage to be less of a marriage? No. Will they force you to get divorced and marry a same sex person? No. So why bother? There is a thing called Separation of church and state, so using definitions given by a book of stories to make laws against someone based on their preference should not even be up for debate. Laws should not be written to take away rights of people. Get over it, its going to happen, and you will be on the wrong side of history.

[A//// Guy]

lol oh boy, yea Im done reasoning with you. Two consenting adults can do as they please. Pyromania, beastiality and pedophilia hurts others in many different ways. How do gay people harm you or anyone? Terrible comparisons.

[A//// Guy]

While Tom is pretty liberal, I know Pete is pretty far right wing, and im a little under that. Its funny though, because it seems only ultra right wing thinks gay marriage is an attack on everyone elses values.

While you dont have to agree its marriage, it will be law soon, so it wont matter what you think.

[A//// Guy]

What is normal and natural? Everyone has their own definition, that is true.

Also what is being broken here, the sanctity of marriage itself?

Because if that's true, then should divorce be illegal? Should strip clubs be illegal since that's a form of prostitution? Capital punishment? Where do you narrow down anything really, it all comes down to a collective society of whats acceptable and whats not. Obviously the people are speaking out because as a whole they feel gay marriage is now acceptable. Sure some wont like it, but you cant make everyone agree on everything.

[A//// Guy]

This thread is now on a SCROTUS level.

[1ViciousGSX]

SCROTUS or SCROTUM? LoL

[Halon]

Speaking of which, the other day on Netflix streaming, under the "Popular On Netflix Now" category was a movie called Scrotal Recall, made me do a double take...

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by Halon

Speaking of which, the other day on Netflix streaming, under the "Popular On Netflix Now" category was a movie called Scrotal Recall, made me do a double take...

[Goat Blower]

Originally Posted by Halon

Speaking of which, the other day on Netflix streaming, under the "Popular On Netflix Now" category was a movie called Scrotal Recall, made me do a double take...

Do you pay extra to get the pr0n on your Netflix? I don't see it on mine.