05-21-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: Evo X upgrades
When is the event you're attending? Gotta get those brake lines on...monday? Tuesday?
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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05-21-2010
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*Resting In Peace*
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by scheides
When is the event you're attending? Gotta get those brake lines on...monday? Tuesday?
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I wasn't expecting to get it done before BIR. Car is still at DB, working an all-nighter on Sat/Sun, then heading up to BIR Sunday evening. Track day is Monday. It's crazy season.
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05-21-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by mlomker
I wasn't expecting to get it done before BIR. Car is still at DB, working an all-nighter on Sat/Sun, then heading up to BIR Sunday evening. Track day is Monday. It's crazy season.
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OIC! Ok, then LMK when you wanna do it, I'm game for whenever. I owe you.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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05-21-2010
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*Resting In Peace*
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Re: Evo X upgrades
I picked up the car tonight. Shane put a tame tune on it...26psi and I think he said 15 degrees of timing? It makes decent power but it will need some polishing next week.
These ID2000 injectors start like a motherfucker when cold and the car barely runs for the first few minutes. On paper the spool is terrible, up around 4300. It doesn't feel bad driving it, though. Maybe the whole spool thing is over-rated.
The ECU is also acting a little weird. The driver's power window is no longer one-touch and the alarm system won't arm. I'm not sure if a fob is lost in the passenger compartment or if the computer just thinks one is there. We practically disassembled the interior looking for it, without luck. I'll be dropping the car back off at DB on Tuesday and we'll see what we can figure on that and polishing the tune.
Shane said the turbo is blowing some smoke on WOT pulls so there's definitely a chance that it'll have to come back out to be repaired. Who said ignorance was inexpensive? Considering what I've been through so far, that seems like a minor issue.

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05-21-2010
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E85=Win
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Re: Evo X upgrades
those are still some pretty nice numbers for low boost, low timing, and possibly blown turbo!
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05-21-2010
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Banned
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Yeah man! Problems suck, but once it's worked out and it makes good power, you forget about all that money spent. I did. Anyway, could the late spool be caused by a maladjusted boost controller? I know mine had the gain turned all the way up and was causing a crazy hysterisis where the waste gate would open a couple times at spool up, then close, make boost and work normally. Check that maybe?
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05-22-2010
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wants to kick mark
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Re: Evo X upgrades
For the window it happens a lot on cars usually if you hold the switch going down all the way and hold it once it bottoms out then bring it all the way back up and hold it, it will reset the auto function and work again.
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05-22-2010
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*Resting In Peace*
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by craig
For the window it happens a lot on cars usually if you hold the switch going down all the way and hold it once it bottoms out then bring it all the way back up and hold it, it will reset the auto function and work again.
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It's weird because it goes down a couple inches every time that I press the switch. It goes up the whole way, like normal. I'll fiddle with it a bit.
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What turbo do you have again? the red?
As far as the security system check fuses, or somehow reactivate it.
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This is the BBK Full for the X. They call it the BBX.
It's not a power issue...it just thinks a key fob is inside the car. DB couldn't find the key that I'd left them so at this point we don't know if that's true or not. We looked for it pretty thoroughly. The X's with SSS don't use an ignition key--it just detects a fob inside the car.
These injectors are really rough and I threw a CEL this morning. The car is making me nervous right now.
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05-22-2010
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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Re: Evo X upgrades
What turbo do you have again? the red?
Nice numbers so far, Craig is right on the windows.
As far as the security system check fuses, or somehow reactivate it.
You might be able to get these both warranted from Brookdale too, just sayin.
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05-22-2010
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Awesome power man, enjoy it.
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05-22-2010
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Ended up being the random misfire code. The local dealers don't have new plugs in stock so I'm going to reinstall a set of HKS M40XL's that I already have. I had pulled those out quite a while ago since Shane didn't recommend one-step colder plugs with E85.
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05-22-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Didn't get a VMail, but I assume that's you that called...I'll have your cable back in the cities tomorrow evening, I can bring it over to ya if you like!
410whp at only 26psi and 15 degrees of timing? That is a damn conservative tune for your setup, but it should get you used to the power before the big numbers. 400whp is plenty of fun for the street, enjoy it!
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I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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05-22-2010
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by scheides
I'll have your cable back in the cities tomorrow evening, I can bring it over to ya if you like!
410whp at only 26psi and 15 degrees of timing? That is a damn conservative tune for your setup
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I'll be gone for Baxter by then but it's cool...I went to O'Reillys and pulled the code with their loaner. Shane warned me about the plugs before I left DB and sure enough, it's not happy. If the M40XL's don't make it behave then I'll try swapping the stock coils on (some people say that the Okadas are actually worse than stock on the X).
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05-22-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Ok man, I'm heading down from Fergus Falls, so if you wanna meet up, I have it in the car with me. Shane will have his so I imagine it'll be NBD. I was hoping to have a box from tactrix in the mail weds, then thurs, then friday (USPS is kinda botching this one) with ODB2 extenders and SD cards for laptop-less logging, but no luck  We'll get that going over the next week or two and you'll be able to do full logs while on track w/o any interuption/hassle 
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I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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05-22-2010
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by scheides
Shane will have his so I imagine it'll be NBD.
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I'd imagine he's coming back on Sunday night. He might see me driving in the other direction.
They keep the track well utilized over the Summer--there's often a few events running at the same time.
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05-23-2010
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Re: Evo X upgrades
The misfiring on my car is not a good thing but it runs well once it's hot.
I did a WOT pull from 2-3 on the way to work last night and I was like 
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05-23-2010
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Re: Evo X upgrades
So it looks like Shane didn't rev it out much yet? Waiting for the retune for that?
You going to use all 9k rpm's of the tach or what?
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05-23-2010
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Good luck tomorrow
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05-23-2010
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Big Turbo Monster
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Re: Evo X upgrades
I was up a Brainerd a little bit on Saturday to see the NASA race and ran into shane there. Never seen a real race before. It is making me a little more motivated to work on my track car project.
Good luck up there!
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05-23-2010
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*Resting In Peace*
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Re: Evo X upgrades
My brother and I met up with scheides & Anna in St Cloud. He helped me to bump the idle up by 100rpm and that made the car much easier to deal with. It's still misfiring now and then but at least it stays running. I did a 1-2-3 pull in a deserted business district and it is beastly enough for me.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
So it looks like Shane didn't rev it out much yet? Waiting for the retune for that?
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I had asked him to go 8k on the regular tune and I've run it up there a handful of times. The BBX is still making power so we'll go 9k on the "tune for numbers" next week.
So far there is no evidence of the car burning oil. Unless that changes I suspect that the turbo is fine.
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