auto to manual

[Powers]

im doing the swap from auto to manual i tried finding the answer to my question online but couldnt get a straight answer. so the key will not come out of the ingnition until the car is put in park when the shifter is switched do i have to get a new ignition?

[Febo]

No, just pull covers off the ignition area and remove the spring in the lock cylinder that triggers the saftey switch, and tape the switch back.... if I recall correctly. OR just take the center console out, and push the cable all the way forward and tape it.

You will be fine.

[Powers]

ok so that covers that and if i remember on the manual trans its just the two drive shafts and shifter cables and 2 or 3 plugs so all the lines on the auto can be removed from the car? i know its sounds like a stupid questions just dont want to mess anything up

[Febo]

Is this a 1g or a 2g?

[Powers]

its a 96 talon fwd tsi

[Febo]

Ok, then the rest of my info probably wont be relevant. But I did do this swap on a 1gb talon, so some of it could be relevant.

What lines and plugs are you talking about exactly??

I know on the 1gb you had to:

Cut the master cylinder hole out (it is templated and easy to do, just awkward)

Cut out the hole for the manual shifter cables as the auto ones ran to a different spot (again templated and easy to do, just awkward)

Remove the TCU (optional, but why not)

Run your clutch lines (no fun at all with engine in, easy with engine out)

Run your new shifter cables (good time to put in the solid bushings)

Mount the shifter (another good time for solid bushings)

then the axles obviously

And also I think you need to swap in a manual ECU as well.... dont quote me on this, but I'm almost positive you have to due to the different engine set-ups, and the fact the ECU will want info from the TCU.... again, not 100%, I swapped mine because I had it available.

[Powers]

i have not followed the lines but they are 2 lines right next to each other that ran down and on the bottom of the radiator possibly oil cooler lines idk if 2g's have an oil cooler like the 1g does

[Febo]

Those would be your trans cooler lines. Yes, you can get rid of those, just be sure to plug off the lines at the radiator so that water or other bads dont get into that area and corrode it. Could potentially lead to a bad coolant leak. This is just a precaution, not a necessity.

[mnnice]

are you sure those arnt for power steering? thats what i thought it would be as it looks like it comes right from the power steering resivor. dont quote me on that though. im still new

[Febo]

I would double trace your lines, your P/S shouldn't be running through your radiator. Those lines at the bottom of the radiator should be for the transmission cooler.

[twack]

you will need the manual ecu for the 450 injectors which i pray you installed as well, but the big thing you ned to do is swap out the pedal assembly for the manual one with a clutch

[Febo]

Yeah, that pedal swap was a mutha... thats for sure.

I just assumed that went without saying haha

[Powers]

ok so i found at a junk yard multiple 2g n/a manuals i was wondering if they are the same setup that i could swap into my 2g minus tranny but pedals, cables, brackets are they all the same?

[Febo]

the pedal assy's should be the same, along with the master cylinder, shifter, and interior brackets, but I would assume that the cables will not be the same as the transmission is on the other side of the car is it not?

[goodhart]

Originally Posted by Febo

the cables will not be the same as the transmission is on the other side of the car is it not?

Correct. 420a's have the trans on the drivers side.

You can use the same bushings, but cables I would assume would not work.

[Powers]

ok thanks guys i just priced everything with the yard and im getting the shifter, pedals, center console, and clutch master for 85 bucks