92 Laser AWD Motor Problems

TurboDomestics · 01-23-2005

Well i just picked up a 92 laser AWD yesterday, and after 71.7 miles it no longer runs
needless to say im extremely pissed, well heres what happened:
Earlier today, i oversteered and dented up the car a bit, and then I was on the way back from dropping off the title of my prelude, and all of a sudden it started getting harder to shift in or out of 1st and 2nd gears, and then i couldnt shift into them at all, luckily i was by the highway home, but then the car stalled on me, I strat her with out a problem and get on the highway, the i shift through 4th gear and 5th gear with out a problem, and now im going down 35W-N and the engine shuts down with a small "thump" sound, but this time it wont start back up,I pull over to the side of the road, then I pop the hood and notice that there is no oil in it, and theres oil in front of the turbo, but not on it, then i call AAA, 5 hours later im home,
Cliffs notes:
-I bought the 92 AWD laser yesterday for $1800
-I dented up the rear fender, (damn snow)
-It wouldnt shift to 1st or 2nd gear 50 miles after buying the car
-Stalled, but started back up
-"thump" sound, and engine cut out and wont start up
-i pull over to the side of the road
-theres no oil in the car, and oil in front of the turbo but not on it, and theres a line that goes to the head that is not plugged in, i cant tell what its for
-i call AAA, and get home 5 hours later

What can I do??

this was the car.
http://www.dsmstyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6140

thanks alot
-Charlie

**Halon** · 01-24-2005

My eclipse dumped all it's oil out one day when the oil filter came loose. When I tried to restarted it, it made a nice Thump sound too. What happened was the oil sprayed all over the timing belt, causing the belt to slip and get frayed. And I'm guessing the thump was 5 valves that I later found busted off inside the cylinder after i removed the head! Maybe the same thing happened to you, but hopefully not.

--OK and now I just realised you said there's a line that goes to the head that isn't plugged in. So sounds like your oil feedline wasn't connected, and all your oil sprayed out. That's shitty luck man, but I guess maybe you shoulda checked under the hood before you restarted it, or maybe payed a little more attention to the gauges because i bet the oil pressure gauge was down there at the LOW mark.

TurboDomestics · 01-24-2005

the oil pressure guage was right in the middle, and so was the temp guage, im going to check it out more closely tonight, and see what else i can find, thanks for the help

**Halon** · 01-24-2005

So when the car died (possibly siezed engine) because it had no oil, you're saying the oil gauge was right in the middle where it's supposed to be? You sure? Cuz, call me crazy, but if you have no oil then that thing should be sittin over on the LOW end of the gauge.

TheBlizzard · 01-24-2005

If I were to just guess I am sure you blew a oil line for the turbo or something. Thats why the oil pressure was ok up until it seized. I wouldn't rule the oil filter housing either. Something went wrong somewhere and caused all the oil to drain out and then motor probably seized. It doesn't take long for a motor, especially a boosted motor to seize up without any oil.

Find out where the oil came from and then it will be easier to diagnose your problem/s.

CRAIG

Raptor · 01-24-2005

Does the engine rotate? Are the timing marks still lined up? Which exact line isn't connected at the head? Where there any noises or indication before it thumped and died? Give as much info as possible so this is easier to troubleshoot

john · 01-24-2005

Were you boosting hard? The only thing I can think of is the car being boosted pretty good, the turbo going (as the car had a boost leak at the ic), and it shitting the oil out. Can you take a pic of the mysterious line? Is it is a metal line that goes to the turbo to the head? I am sure I know where it will/was supposed to go if you can post a pic. I do not see how it would have anything to do with the tranny acting up though. The car ran perfect minus the problems I said in my for sale thread.

TurboDomestics · 01-24-2005

TurboDomestics · 01-24-2005

sorry for the extremely large images but I thought that the more detail the better

**1ViciousGSX** · 01-24-2005

Unfortunately those pics don't really seem to show where the problem is, only shows a general area. Can you specificly point or give reference to exactly where the problem is.

Have you put oil back in?
Does the engine spin over?

TurboDomestics · 01-24-2005

heres the line that isnt connected, and i havent had a chance to pick up some oil for it yet,

**1ViciousGSX** · 01-24-2005

That looks like the vent breather to intake pipe hose. If that came off the intake pipe you should have a large leak between the mas air meter and the turbo. This would make it hard to start and run poorly once started. Look for a large hose fitting on the intake pipe between the mas and the turbo. Put it back into place. Now find out where that oil went.

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 01-24-2005

That is just a breather line. Stock it just routes back into the intake pipe, but it looks like there is some ghetto intake on there now. A little bit of oil will come out of there mixed in with air. A breather filter or catch can would be a better way to do that line, but it shouldn't have caused the motor to fail.

A//// Guy · 01-24-2005

Do you see any large splashes of oil anywhere under the car? There is nothing in the pics as fasr as oil, loose lines etc.

We either need some pics of the oil cooler assembly or just the bottom pan and all. Did the car leave a puddle of oil when it was towed? Any evidence at all?

slowbubblecar · 01-24-2005

There is a metal intake pipe on there and the line is dumped to the ground. That line means nothing. The intake pipe doen't have a spot for it.

slowbubblecar · 01-24-2005

Car is a 92 so no oil cooler.

TurboDomestics · 01-24-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by EclipseTurbo

Do you see any large splashes of oil anywhere under the car? There is nothing in the pics as fasr as oil, loose lines etc.

We either need some pics of the oil cooler assembly or just the bottom pan and all. Did the car leave a puddle of oil when it was towed? Any evidence at all?

well in the 2nd pic I posted, you can see some oil in front if the turbo,
and where i pulled over there was a few drops of very dark oil, not very many though
tomorrow i will jack the car up and take pics of the oil filter and get some pics of the underside of the car
thanks for all the replies

slowbubblecar · 01-24-2005

BTW, I remember the turbo having caked on dirt when John got the car. ICEMAN scraped off the front side of it to look cleaner.

unreal808 · 01-24-2005

Why are you missing the FPR solenoid,EGR solenoid,and Purge control solenoid in the first PIC, and the fuse box? looking at the PIC it would be the upper right side. The hose in PIC two is the vent hose, for the camcover and should have a filter, it was pluged in to the stock air intake hose.

TurboDomestics · 01-24-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal808

Why are you missing the FPR solenoid,EGR solenoid,and Purge control solenoid in the first PIC, and the fuse box? looking at the PIC it would be the upper right side. The hose in PIC two is the vent hose, for the camcover and should have a filter, it was pluged in to the stock air intake hose.

If all that is missing it is because John must have taken it out, I have not had time to mess with it.