09-13-2011
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#21
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: MN
Drives: four tires
Posts: 1,608
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Re: Want to race for real??
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Originally Posted by v8klla
Well that's pretty vague lol, sounds like this valued at $500 thing is pretty lenient huh?
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Kind of, but if they value at over that amount, you get penalized. It's more complicated than it sounds, and from what Shane has relayed, a lot of work to convince them of your cars value(need evidence of as many same make/model cars selling for what you are claiming etc).
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09-14-2011
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#22
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aka Goodbye
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Re: Want to race for real??
Hmmm, I still wouldn't mind doing this, but it'd have to be a DSM. There's tons of shitcans out there for $500, I've got tons of spares, and I can work on them in my sleep. Hmmm, it does sound like fun.
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09-14-2011
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#23
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The land of the next-gen HMMWV
Drives: A BMW
Posts: 1,875
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Re: Want to race for real??
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Originally Posted by scheides
Hrm, so team four, that's $5000/4 ~~$1300 / 12 months ~~$125/month.
How crazy do people go for spare parts? Seems like you'd want to have spare axles, brakes, alternators...fuck, a whole spare engine/trans?
Wonder how much renting a race trailer and filling it with car/spares would end up costing. Does anyone just drive the car to the track and then drink beer and AAA it home when it breaks?
I have a spot on the side of my garage that I parked my bro's DSM in for a while...no room to work on it back there though. I suppose it's 'in the theme' to just buy a POS, race it, and then park it outside the rest of the year though, eh?
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I don't think i've ever seen anyone drive their chumpcar to the track. A lot of people park their cars outside and/or in fields over the winter. But most people are doing work on their cars, if they are competitive. It depents on how seriously you want to take it. Personlly, I think if i'm gonna take the time to prep a car and race, i want to do it right and be competitive.
We bring a spare engine with trans if ours goes bad. But if we have to swap an engine, we won't be competitive, at that point we're just doing it to get more seat time.
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09-14-2011
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#24
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The land of the next-gen HMMWV
Drives: A BMW
Posts: 1,875
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Re: Want to race for real??
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09-14-2011
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#25
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hastings, MN
Drives: 08 Evolution X
Posts: 482
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Re: Want to race for real??
You guys are missing the point, you can buy into a team for a race just to try it out. Fair warning though if you try it, you will be hooked, chumpcar is like crack.
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09-14-2011
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#26
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back in the saddle again
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Re: Want to race for real??
Hopefully next year I can look at a minimum coming out to pit or buying into a seat for a race to get my feet wet. Like most everyone on here I have an interest in building one.
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09-14-2011
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#27
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Keeper of the lost toys!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Mple grove, mn
Drives: 1977 pinto,1994 farm truck, 04 4-door mustang
Posts: 602
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Re: Want to race for real??
I have interest, but finding a team of wokkies, as im 6 foo5 300 + makes fitting in a car not so easy, also trying to find 4xl driving suits arent gonna be cheap
..... I have a truck and trailer though... hmmmm
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09-14-2011
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#28
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formerly ecoli
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: On the dyno
Posts: 4,892
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Re: Want to race for real??
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Originally Posted by s1ngletracker
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Might be a little tough to pass a running AWD by as an $500 car, if it was NA then shouldn't be a problem and might not break or drink gas like crazy.
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Originally Posted by 1QUICK4
I will donate a GVR4 shell for a Mitsustyle Chump car
Who's down?
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Serious $500 valuation problem here, they probably don't come up that much on Craigslist and to find 10 of them for around $500 or less would be hard.
You don't need some crazy fast car, it's more important to be reliable, which we haven't exactly been. If you show up with some crazy fast car, you aren't going to make any friends out there and you will eventually get penalized from winning by too much or sandbagging. Most of the cars out there are from the 80s or early 90s and are realistically putting down 80-150whp. There are some heavier cars out there putting down a bit more, but their weight keeps them fairly even or slower than the light lower power cars. There is a beat up SC400 automatic out there that I have no idea how they get by the $500 valuation and it is decently faster than everyone else in a straightline, but it breaks all the time and they have a hard time finding parts for it during races. There is also a stripped BMW 540i auto that just about everyone hates that eventually got put into a different class a couple races ago, then they tried to make it more legal and got back in for the Chumpionship, but it's extremely unreliable so the owner has been trying to sell it to focus on their other E30 chumpcars.
One word of warning, the teams that run the tracks around here are pretty fast and not because they have a lot of HP. There are a lot of BIR and BMW club instructors out there, ex SCCA drivers, ex Porsche cup drivers, ex Rally drivers, etc. We don't have any Spec E30 race series around here like in other parts of the country, so you see a lot of them in chumpcar too. It's a lot of fun regardless of if your running in the top 10 or not though.
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09-14-2011
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#29
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Cottage Grove, MN
Posts: 2,120
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Re: Want to race for real??
Ah I didn't see the download link to the right, they're a bit more detailed in there lol
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09-14-2011
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#30
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Crash Course Racing
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Skid Row
Drives: in circles
Posts: 2,623
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Re: Want to race for real??
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Originally Posted by Shane@DBPerformance
Might be a little tough to pass a running AWD by as an $500 car, if it was NA then shouldn't be a problem and might not break or drink gas like crazy.
Serious $500 valuation problem here, they probably don't come up that much on Craigslist and to find 10 of them for around $500 or less would be hard.
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You've seen how ugly my Galant is. I'm sure there'd be some leeway on the $500.
Could always set it up n/a & fwd.
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09-14-2011
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#31
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The land of the next-gen HMMWV
Drives: A BMW
Posts: 1,875
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Re: Want to race for real??
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Originally Posted by 1QUICK4
You've seen how ugly my Galant is. I'm sure there'd be some leeway on the $500.
Could always set it up n/a & fwd.
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well unfortunately its not necessarily about your specific car as it is your 10 AIV ads from the internet, average of which being your value. Any mods are added on top of that.
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09-14-2011
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Crash Course Racing
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Skid Row
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Re: Want to race for real??
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Originally Posted by s1ngletracker
well unfortunately its not necessarily about your specific car as it is your 10 AIV ads from the internet, average of which being your value. Any mods are added on top of that.
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I can find plenty of rough 91 Galants for around $500
I cannot find many running Civics or BMWs for that kind of $$$ though 
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09-14-2011
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#33
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hastings, MN
Drives: 08 Evolution X
Posts: 482
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Re: Want to race for real??
searchtempest.com is your friend for AIV needs...
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09-14-2011
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#34
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N17r0U$ br4D
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Re: Want to race for real??
I would love to do something like this but just don't know if I will have the money for it next year, I could probably have the time to help turn wrenches since I don't have a fun car any more.
Your galant would be awesome brian and that other ralley 1g would be pretty easy too. Booooo for monies
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09-14-2011
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#35
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 14 Evo X GSR
Posts: 169
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Re: Want to race for real??
I'd love too.. but I need to kick some weight first.. fat guys and racing don't mix 
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09-14-2011
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#36
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Shakopee
Drives: 91 Galant VR4
Posts: 262
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Re: Want to race for real??
As someone who used to race weekly at the local NASCAR tracks, I vastly prefer Chumpcar racing at this point in my life. It's such a great atmosphere and the tracks they race are amazing.
If you really want to get involved, see about joining an existing team. Our team has prepared two cars for Chump and spent very close to $3500 on each one. We scored a lot of deals through racing buddies and had all of the tools already.
Car prep is huge. That's where you win the race. Don't just replace the beaks pads and call it good. Replace the brake lines, rotors, etc. Going through the car and addressing every part will ensure you finish. That's why joining an existing team is a good idea.
As far as gear goes, we had a rookie on our team this past race and he used www.racesuitrental.com. He had a great experience with them and it was under $200 for everything needed.
I still recommend this racing to everyone I can. It's a blast and I'm super excited to run more races next year in the Chevette.
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09-14-2011
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#37
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: Want to race for real??
I'd love to join a team, anyone looking for someone next year?
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09-14-2011
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#38
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The land of the next-gen HMMWV
Drives: A BMW
Posts: 1,875
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Re: Want to race for real??
We are always looking for crew who knows how to wrench and knows hondas... or a very organizational type who will take care of logistics, schedules, details, etc.
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09-14-2011
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#39
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Shakopee
Drives: 91 Galant VR4
Posts: 262
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Re: Want to race for real??
Check out the schedule, and get into contact with the local teams. There's always a team that had a guy bail and need someone who can pay their way.
Or join a team as a crew member, show them you're capable and get along with everyone and progress to a driver in an event or two.
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09-14-2011
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#40
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Keeper of the lost toys!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Mple grove, mn
Drives: 1977 pinto,1994 farm truck, 04 4-door mustang
Posts: 602
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Re: Want to race for real??
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Originally Posted by s1ngletracker
We are always looking for crew who knows how to wrench and knows hondas... or a very organizational type who will take care of logistics, schedules, details, etc.
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I dont know crap abut honda's but I can make a mean waffle? any one need a personal chef/hospitality???
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